Quattroroute Murci vs CGT vs Enzo
#32
Originally posted by allanlambo
Yes, and you obviously have no idea what you are talking about in any regard. No doubt that a CGT will beat a Murci to 200kmh. But as i said, OFF THE LINE, dead stop, Murci launched properly will be a headache for the CGT until they get into those speeds.
Yes, and you obviously have no idea what you are talking about in any regard. No doubt that a CGT will beat a Murci to 200kmh. But as i said, OFF THE LINE, dead stop, Murci launched properly will be a headache for the CGT until they get into those speeds.
... Allan's right and I don't care who knows it.
All of these cars have enough power to break traction all the way to 60 mph, so weight and additional power kinda don't matter. The zero to 60 time on an F1 car is not nearly as much of an improvement over a fast street car as you'd expect, given the difference in power to weight ratio.
In the end, it comes down to this. Under hard accelaration, the driven wheels of the CGT or Enzo will be pressed down with somewhere between 60% (the static weight over the rear wheels) and 100% (the theoretical maximum if the CGT could do a wheelie ). Given the low CG for these cars, it's probably closer to 75% tops. That value is 100% for an AWD vehicle, and no RWD vehicle can match it. Given that, the Murci will be capable of being quicker off the line, assuming it manages front/rear power distribution somewhat intelligently. (and yes, I'm ignoring things like minor differences in contact patch area and tire compound, as they are very close to begin with, and easy to change anyway)
Once you get past the speed at which you're spinning the wheels all the way through the gears, power to weight ratio and drag versus absolute horsepower (or area under the curve in the appropriate rev range, really) become the dominant factor, at which time the CGT and Enzo start to pull away.
Watch an F1 car go from 100 to 200 though. That's a sight to see.
Last edited by PMac; 06-28-2005 at 10:44 PM.
#34
Originally posted by rockitman
only porblem I see with your arg., PMac is AWD. Sure for safety/daily driving...but for the pure thrill of it all...RWD rules and is much more interesting and repsonsive....
only porblem I see with your arg., PMac is AWD. Sure for safety/daily driving...but for the pure thrill of it all...RWD rules and is much more interesting and repsonsive....
I'd still trade the C4S and someone's left nut for a GT3 if I were man enough to live without PSM. But I ain't
#35
Originally posted by PMac
I'd still trade the C4S and someone's left nut for a GT3 if I were man enough to live without PSM. But I ain't
I'd still trade the C4S and someone's left nut for a GT3 if I were man enough to live without PSM. But I ain't
#36
Originally posted by rockitman
You are, just drive slower in the rain.
You are, just drive slower in the rain.
I'm a better driver now than I was then, but I'm nowhere near where I would need to be to feel that PSM is optional.
You GT3 guys are braver than I.
#38
Originally posted by rockitman
Clearly the CGT is King and at just a little more than 2/3 the Enzo's sticker, it's a bargain...There is no better car on the road.
Now all I have to do is drive one...
Clearly the CGT is King and at just a little more than 2/3 the Enzo's sticker, it's a bargain...There is no better car on the road.
Now all I have to do is drive one...
#39
Originally posted by NAPO
I do know what you are saying and I do agree about some car magazines... But these times are obviously very high... We are talking about the top supercars of today... There is no way that a slightly modded GT2 can get the same times as Porsche's top model/ supercar... Oh and I didn't know a Murci is significantly faster than a CGT to 62.5mph?? There would be something wrong in with that situation... Don't you agree??
I do know what you are saying and I do agree about some car magazines... But these times are obviously very high... We are talking about the top supercars of today... There is no way that a slightly modded GT2 can get the same times as Porsche's top model/ supercar... Oh and I didn't know a Murci is significantly faster than a CGT to 62.5mph?? There would be something wrong in with that situation... Don't you agree??
All in all though these are very fast, capable machines, and any of them would be more than welcome in my garage
#41
By the way this is from a Road and Track article click here for more:
http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....&page_number=8
http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....&page_number=8
#42
Originally posted by PMac
All of these cars have enough power to break traction all the way to 60 mph, so weight and additional power kinda don't matter. The zero to 60 time on an F1 car is not nearly as much of an improvement over a fast street car as you'd expect, given the difference in power to weight ratio.
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Watch an F1 car go from 100 to 200 though. That's a sight to see. [/B]
All of these cars have enough power to break traction all the way to 60 mph, so weight and additional power kinda don't matter. The zero to 60 time on an F1 car is not nearly as much of an improvement over a fast street car as you'd expect, given the difference in power to weight ratio.
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Watch an F1 car go from 100 to 200 though. That's a sight to see. [/B]
#43
Originally posted by buddyg
If the Porsche 911 turbo can beat the Murcie to 100 mph I don't think the Carrera GT will have a problem.
If the Porsche 911 turbo can beat the Murcie to 100 mph I don't think the Carrera GT will have a problem.
#44
Have a Diable 6.0 coming next week (while I am out of town so my 23 year old brother gets to take delivery). Cannot wait. Love the carbon interior and the front end. Liked the back of the Murci better, but like the view of the 6.0 from the front and the interior of the 6.0 better. Plus, I saved a little $$$. I drove this car rather hard and I don't think it was as quick as my 03 TT coupe was even before I modded it. Nonetheless, I finally got one and that's all that matters. I don't care if it drove like shyt, I am still gonna be pimpin.