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Old 06-27-2005 | 08:14 PM
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Quattroroute Murci vs CGT vs Enzo

Murcielago is equiped with new CCM Brakes. Enzo starts to pull very hard up top.

Brake test 100 to 0
Enzo 34M
Murcielago 32.6
CGT 32.7
Brake test 200-0
Enzo 136.2
Murcielago 130.5
CGT 130.8

Lap Times
Murci 1:19.840
Enzo 1:17.448
CGT 1.17.339
 
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Makes for interesting reading. The Murci's weight clearly penalizes it on the track, but with the security of AWD, I would think the average to above-average driver would get closer to the edge of the envelope in aMurci than (s)he would dare in a CGT or Enzo.

Straight line, there's not a whole bunch in it between the CGT and Enzo, the difference being plausibly close to what you might expect between F1 and manual shifting (1/10th per change through 4 of 5 shifts). It appears that the CGT and Enzo are pretty similar in aero (with perhaps a nod to the CGT, as it gets the better lap time with less accelerative ability).

Maybe makes you wonder if the Italian ponies are slighlty smaller than the German ones. I don't suppose anyone's dynoed them back to back.

Does rather make the Murci look like the performance bargain of the year, though
 
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Thanks! Good info.
 
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Someone needs to buy me a Murci roadster.
 
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The Murci is also an Egear, and i was somewhat suprised by its slower mph in the 1/4, apprx 120mph. Most put it a few mph faster.

Anyways, there is no doubt the other 2 cars are faster and more track oriented, but as ive said before, with dollars compared, the murci is a bargain. I also hear the new 06 will have 50hp more.
 
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Old 06-27-2005 | 09:33 PM
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Originally posted by allanlambo
The Murci is also an Egear, and i was somewhat suprised by its slower mph in the 1/4, apprx 120mph. Most put it a few mph faster.

Anyways, there is no doubt the other 2 cars are faster and more track oriented, but as ive said before, with dollars compared, the murci is a bargain. I also hear the new 06 will have 50hp more.
I hope that is true.
 
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We need more info and pics, please!
 
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But according to ColorChange, all the cars should brake the same
 
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interesting number on the CGT. factory tested 0-200km in 9.9 second & the Enzo was a little ahead.
 
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Nice, what does the Murci run in the 1/4 11.6 ?
 
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Ive got anywhere form 11.5 to 12.6 .
 
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Sorry to say but... Those times are BS dude, someone needs to learn how to drive... CGT does 0-100 in 4.04sec?? Yeaaaa, riiiight.

Porsche is super modest and they give it 3.9sec 0-60.
 
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No the difference this is what happens when the cars are tested properly.

There is a big difference between factory "times" and real world times.
 
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Old 06-28-2005 | 04:21 AM
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Porsche's times are very modest though and every car magazine says it... Although it depends on the driver. Car and driver got 3.5sec. 0-60 with the CGT and 3.3sec. with the Enzo... Both cars got 11.2sec. 1/4mile with trap speeds 132 and 136mph. These are real world times... Considering I saw another magazine get 3.0sec. 0-60 with the Enzo and 3.3sec. with the CGT.

Enzo:
http://www.caranddriver.com/article....&page_number=3

Porsche:
http://www.caranddriver.com/article....&page_number=3
 
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Old 06-28-2005 | 04:27 AM
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But according to ColorChange, all the cars should brake the same
No, it's contingent upon the drivers ability to exert massive amounts of force on the brake lever. We’ve been over this.
 


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