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Old 07-13-2005, 01:33 PM
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K16 vs k24 turbo's

I have an 01 Turbo without the X50 package. I know my car has the k16's, but my question is if I bought original X50 Turbos (K24's) and just swapped them with mine, would there be any immediate power increases. I would assume there would be more lag since they are larger also. I currently also have a factory gt2 exhaust on the car that I purchased from a board member a while back. I would eventually chip the car and do the upgraded intercoolers. Thanks for your response.
 
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I believe you also would have to remap the ecu to gain any advantage with the larger turbo's.
 
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I believe you also would have to remap the ecu to gain any advantage with the larger turbo's.
Correct. You would have to put an X50 Ecu mapping onto your car.
 
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And maybe intercoolers to cool the bigger bad boys (X50/GT2 have bigger intercoolers than reg. TTs)
 
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Re: K16 vs k24 turbo's

Originally posted by M3CAB
I have an 01 Turbo without the X50 package. I know my car has the k16's, but my question is if I bought original X50 Turbos (K24's) and just swapped them with mine, would there be any immediate power increases. I would assume there would be more lag since they are larger also. I currently also have a factory gt2 exhaust on the car that I purchased from a board member a while back. I would eventually chip the car and do the upgraded intercoolers. Thanks for your response.
In order to get the most from the K24's you will need a few other support items.

First and foremost is a chip. GIAC offers the most aggressive K24 program. Second would be an exhaust. The stock exhaust on any Turbo Porsche is extremely restrictive. Throw in a panel air filter and some diverter valves and you've got yourself a monster.

Check out this link for more info.

AWE/GIAC K24 Turbo kit

If you have any further questions, email me.
mike@awe-tuning.com

Hope this helps.
 
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Originally posted by msindi
And maybe intercoolers to cool the bigger bad boys (X50/GT2 have bigger intercoolers than reg. TTs)
I hardly think that 10% larger intercoolers (that is the percentage, correct?) make that much of a difference in my opinion (at least from what I have learned over the years of doing Front Mounts on Supras, 3000GT VR-4s, and RX-7s).
 
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So I guess the answer is, If I did theGT2 Turbo's and chip, that would possibly yield a significant power increase, and then of course the exhaust would help also. I have already done the Baileys and bought them AWE last year since I was having tons of boost problems.

Now I had plans to chip the car soon, so if I did the chip with stock turbo's would I have to buy a new overlapping chip program for the upgraded turbo's? I am still deciding if the upgraded turbos are really worth it for me, since I know the chip is.
 
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Anyone know approximate cost of the total upgrade to K24's and the goodies that you need with 'em?
 
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Originally posted by M3CAB

Now I had plans to chip the car soon, so if I did the chip with stock turbo's would I have to buy a new overlapping chip program for the upgraded turbo's? I am still deciding if the upgraded turbos are really worth it for me, since I know the chip is.
Honestly, I would try chipping the stock turbos and buying a good exhaust/intake setup. Many hefty gains have been made with the stock K16 turbos.

However, there is a Stage II turbo setup with the Upsolute chip that makes some serious hp (perhaps a bit more) for less than you would spend on the K24 turbos for, much less for 2 K-24 turbos and a chip.

Read about it here:
https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...threadid=12591
and here:
https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...threadid=16965
 

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Originally posted by M3CAB
So I guess the answer is, If I did theGT2 Turbo's and chip, that would possibly yield a significant power increase, and then of course the exhaust would help also. I have already done the Baileys and bought them AWE last year since I was having tons of boost problems.

Now I had plans to chip the car soon, so if I did the chip with stock turbo's would I have to buy a new overlapping chip program for the upgraded turbo's? I am still deciding if the upgraded turbos are really worth it for me, since I know the chip is.

The GIAC chip for K16 Turbos is $2000. Let's say in a year you upgrade to K24's, you will get full trade in value. The K24 specific chip is $3000. Since you are already an exsisting GIAC customer, subtract $2000. Simple as that!
 
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Anyone know approximate cost of the total upgrade to K24's and the goodies that you need with 'em?
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Thanks Mike!
 
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Thanks Mike!
No problem.

After you do the install, your car will fly (literally)!

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I can attest to the power of GIAC...went from an 01 TT to an 03 X50 and although faster not that impressive for 18K...
Next was the Baileys, K&N, Fabspeed supersport and Imagine Auto/GIAC 600HP program - DAMN that car was fast....now im ruined as no car will satify my power needs
 
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No problem.

After you do the install, your car will fly (literally)!

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Sweet video! Who knew a tt could imitate the General Lee from the Dukes of Hazzard!

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