c'mon.. by the time this kid is allowed to drive or buy a car the prices on 996t's will have stabilized to reflect at least a fraction of their true worth, and he'll only be able to afford a used mini cooper.

chip it.. lol

 

Okay, give me an example of peer pressure. If someone beside me had a Corvette and wanted to "race", i'll ignore him/her. I won't "show off" like drift, go over speed limits, etc.

I'm not an ***, who will impress a friend or a girl in the passenger's side, by doing something dumb or show off.

 

spoken like every teenager in the world. "honest dad ill never spin the tires or do anything stupid" until you do. the difference is in a turbo porsche you can go from 0 to dead in less then 10 seconds

until you have enough experience simply driving stay away from the high power cars. take this advice from someone who has over 2 million miles behind the wheel and has seen every form of destruction you can imagine regarding a vehicle.

 

Example of peer pressure? Doesn't have to be direct like you're stating. You have already implied more than a few times that you want a sports car to impress people. You've also never been behind the wheel of a fast car

...or behind the wheel of a slow car for that matter

a car doesn't need to be fast to do something stupid. All it needs is a stupid and/or inexperienced driver behind the wheel.

 

Most of our fathers told us when we were young that we didn't need a high horsepower car because it would only get us in trouble. And we all thought our fathers were wrong because we were all sure that we could "handle the power." How many of us have a story about taking Dad's vintage '63 Corvette out and almost wrapping it around a tree? Dad was right, and it takes most of us 20 years or more to figure it out, if we survive our youth. You will never be convinced of how dangerous an idea this is until you are sliding sideways and the tail is coming around at 100+mph. The only thing that can save you in a situation like that is nerves of steel gained from years of experience or just dumb luck. These cars + no experience = high potential for death. I hope you do not learn this the hard way.

 

It takes many years if ever. I'd bet you a nickel that many of the posters on here are not really good drivers with much measureable skill when it comes to performance driving; plus having a set of nerves to match.

But that being said a athletic young male can usually be taught very good driving skills quickly, the drive and fearlessness of a young male can be a great determining factor in potential ability. Look at someone like Sabastian Vettel, a low 20's driver is the best F1 driver in the world.

What gets many young drivers into trouble is a system that only trains any driver to have a minimum set of skills necessary to be able to drive --- Plus a youthful fairy tale belief that does not quite understand pain and suffering like an older person.

Teenagers and very low 20 something's in this generation are just dominating so many things that require physical prowess, what is really sad is there are just so few parents in this world that actually teach or push there children to be any other then nominal or average at best.

 

Don't get sucked into dealerships for repairs. Open a book and learn to maintain your car. I have had mine over 4 years and only replaced an alternator other than maintenance. I am a very hard driver and have had her upwards of 180mph and many tracks.
First these are cars not idols. They are cars and very well built and over engineered. Most people on here have money so they buy Porsches. The stigma is $$$ to maintain. Horse crap if you start with a great car and take care of it yourself when able. Holler if I can ever help!

 

"These cars + no experience = high potential for death. I hope you do not learn this the hard way."

Well said! I've aways wanted to have 'A' beer and then go for a short drive. What stops me every time from doing this is- I need to RESPECT my car with a sober mind set. Other wise I could bite me so bad that I might not be around.

 

Cool! So if I have questions before buying a TT or a Carrera, you'll help? If so you are very kind.

Now regarding the Porsche, I may get one with paddle shifters, so a semi manual gearbox/tranny, so I think this is easier than a straight up classic manual gearbox. It appears, in videos anyways, a lot easier to shift up or down versus doing the patterned shifts where you go up down, and then right up, down, etc.

 

Good job reading over more valuable advice. Just like you did in your thread about your inability to save money on the lamborghini forum.

You're coming on to a handful of forums, basically asking us to verify a dream for you and to give you assurance of the future ownership experience you might have. I don't think you are actually thinking about what's being said, other than wanting to hear us tell you what you want to hear. Kinda juvenile, no?

I think your overlooking of advice you don't want to hear is very telling.

Watch this video. You could always buy a mustang...

where did the problem start? How could he have saved it?

 

Well, it sounds like you are still convinced to get a 911. At the very least, have a competent driver teach you how to drive it properly.

I still think it's a bad idea but take a class at the very least. You should also know how to drive a manual if you want to drive a sports car btw. It's half the fun IMO.

 

So I skimmed through your Lambourgini post and wanted to kick in some of my own advice about buying a car like this. I will assume you're not a total troll because you actually came back and posted after people started linking your other threads.

This is clearly a trophy car (or an awkward daily driver if you use it like me). If you're just getting started in your life and career, it's honestly a potential money pit that will tie you down and probably hamper your future growth. You're talking about becoming a business owner, so you have to think like one. I can promise you that good business owners are not taking 100% of their liquid savings and plowing it into a depreciating asset like a car. They are investing it in their business and worrying about how to make that successful and growing the money.

Cars and money will come, but step one is seriously to get your career going. That's what will let you succeed - not having some flashy car. I always liked the term big hat, no cattle. Don't be that guy. I was reading an article from some billionaire saying that it's not about saving money on the 4 dollar lattes like all the popular money and budgeting mags might have you believe. It's raw earnings and oppurtunities that you are able to jump on that really gets you there. Either way, if your method to afford this car is by cutting out 6 dollar lunches, this is NOT the right car for you. Work on playing better offense...not defense.

As cool as it might seem to have an awesome car. When you don't have money to take girls out because you had to buy some fancy maintenance part you didn't know your car even HAD...you suddenly are a lot less cool.

Final thought - I know you say you won't drive fast etc, but this car hits triple digit speeds so quickly that you WILL push the envelope occasionally. You just get to dangerous levels that much faster in it, so go play in an empty parking lot or something so you at least understand the limits if you're not going to get actual instruction.

 

that was a thoughtful post, and sound advice. my feeling is that most folks that become folks that own and drive porsche turbo's have at least one avoidable mishap in their early or nascent driving *lives". in my case it was totalling a classic restored '54 xk120M jaguar at the ripe old age of 16. you WILL have an accident, my advice is to get *it* out of the way on a less *demanding* ( in terms of concentration ) car. then get a 200mph car. lol

 

I agree. He needs driving experience first and unfortunately, experience often comes from mishaps. Better to have it happen in a cheaper car . I flipped a 180 once but was very fortunate to be able to keep the car on the road; I'm a lot more careful now.

 

I had a rough experience with RWD + snow in my E36 m3. So yeah, you'll definitely ruin something in your early years.

I would go on swapalease.com and try to find cheap, high powered cars you could lease for a year at a time so if you ruin them, it's just a lease you can dump later