I know, I didnt put that at you, just a general statement because of the build up of the K16 Billets..
You are the one that you know more about this..

 

that's just what you'll get. a nice quick kick. the power band/delivery of the 16/24's is as near a perfect power band/delivery for street/canyons in this car as you'll find. bigger isnt better.. always. again, depends on goals/driving styles/conditions.

i'm certain that given all the options, you have to consider how quickly and when you want power delivered. i drive freeways and canyons..and since i live in a nat'l park. let's say canyons mostly; highways don't matter ( as much ) relative to power band as such, while canyon cutting/carving requires me to be much quicker and have boost on tap quickly that either stock 16's/ecu; no flash or even the 24's with the larger ic's; could not deliver. with my last car; flashed w x50 24's, i still felt as if i was making a reservation for boost rather than instant "ON". zzzz... kidding but not by much. i likened it to an old school two stroke motorbike coming into its power band with a necksnap.

whatever else you'll be doing this time around to support the newer turbo's ( i/c's/5bar fpr??).. you will LOVE the 16 billet hybrids you got from sam. there really is no lag.. ok there is barely perceptable lag ( relative to stock 16 or 24's ) and they WILL keep you focused.

enjoy the upgrades.

 

I think my K24/18g combo feels very good and is easy to drive,,nothing a quick down shift can not handle if needed..
My next choice would be after much research and help would be 3071s because I would get higher and more linear powerband with gaining a quicker spool,not loosing any spool like with K24/20s..

 

With you research how much different is it to the 3076's?

The reason I am asking is I might be looking to do the 3076's after my intercoolers and water meth later this year.


Thanks

Bobby Ali

ba

 

Hi,,Yes the 3071s will spool a little quicker and have a little better low mid power....I plan on only using my current mods on my signature only and running 93 pump gas , so those 3071s will be more then enough for me....
As Todd from Proto,Mike from Blouch and Markski told me that they will better all around then the K24/18gs at my level..
But you can get more out of either turbo with Meth..Both will max out a stock blocks limatations.
Most will advise going right to 3076s because of the more top end potential from adding more mods plus if you go into the block you will be set to use them to the fullest,,,AND if not the tuner can dial them down...I dont want that temptation,,LOL..

 

K16 billets + other supporting mods mentioned, will be good set up for corner to corner blasts at your local track. My car was "more fun" with K16's on a road racing track on the tight sections. At Road America, my car was more fun (albeit terrifying) with K24/18G and all supporting mods. Too much MPH could be had on both of long straights... Woohoo, but scary !

 

Only 200rpms...

I bought from Sam A3076...I will post results in few days...

 

Thats sounds about right,200 to 300, But I was told that the power in the lower mid is noticably better?
I believe there was a Dyno sheet on here recently comparing the 2 turbos from Prodigymb..

 

Yes,but the first A3076 was on 93+meth and the second HTA 3071 on E85

 

Correct...

E85 helps spool..

 

Always remember you can mix and match a bit. many call these a "secret or special turbo" but it's really like anything else. Done in the right way of course. If you are losing sleep over it (and many do) I have done a few A3073's. Happy guys.

 

I think johnspeed was indicating an old K24 vs alpha 3076 dyno side by side and not 3071 vs 3076 using different fuel, boost and mods...

And as far as i know you didnt buy of the shelf A3076, as you need external wastegates, headers and more.... Aphas are almost direct bolt on, internal gates, working with stock headers, you might have some bigger turbos than alphas...at least on the hotside and at least compared to A3071

I had K24, flashed K24 and A3076 with all suporting mods and i can say that the difference when they hit is like 300 rpms, but have to take into consideration not just engine and turbos but ALL SUPPORTING MODS..... these are going to help spool as well and dont compare a stock airbox A28 car with a fully modded A3071 car by example.. nothing to see

 

This is correct, I'd like roughly the same power with quicker response. The K24/18g's are fun, but I want them to be more responsive down low. (below 3k RPM). THanks for the video comparison.


I am looking forward to updates on your setup!

Markski - it seems that if I go with A30's I will be in the same boat (repsonse-wise) as the k24/18g, picking up boost around 3300-3500rpm.... only with a boatload more power. You mentioned A28's weren't a good choice, but they seem to spool around 2600 RPM from various dyno's that I've run across. How are these, in your opinion, not beneficial?

The K16 billet cost versus the A28's is drastic, but I'm still out 2k+ for a retune, EvoMS being my local tuner.

I apprecaite the input, the K16 billets do sound appealing.

 

Billet K16s are great and wont kill a bank account.

 

How is your car working out Alexei?