he doesn't need free medical advice...he took the MCAT remember ?

 

MCAT??? Never said that. Your attention to detail is astonishingly bad. Therein lies the problem with much of this thread. Say anything regardless of veracity.

C4S surgeon:
I will give it a shot, although I somehow think I will get stuck with additional shop costs irregardless as to who faults it is.

 

 

Yapp, I'm the one who took the MCAT. Maybe you should read the posts before you comment? I hope you pay more attention to your patients Mr Dr, MD, PhD racer!

 

I really hope that this issue will get resolved and I still think that this thread might serve the purpose. At least there is some dialogue between Doug and Ruf. However what's with a few loyal Ruf customers slamming Doug? From what I gathered from the posts, its still not established that Ruf is w/out blame. So why not wait until all facts are in before making any judgements?

Ps aren't moderators supposed to be objective?

 

because Ruf has stepped up and said they'll solve the issue whether they are to blame or not



and why do mods need to be objective

 

It would seem objectivity would help moderating? But I guess it's not a necessity.

 

The bottom line is that this forum was not the place to bring up the issues with the bumper untill you had finalized an arrangment with Ruf. Your post should have been one of the following: 1) Had a problem with my bumper, Ruf dealt with it the right way. Great Guys highly recomend doing business with them. Or 2) My bumper is not right and guys from Ruf have refused to take care of it the right way. Instead you started a fiasco while you were still sorting things out with them. So now regardless of how they handle the issue I doubt they will ever want to do business with you again. Which I don't think anyone will blame them for. You have embarrased yourself and made an uncomfortable situation for the people at Ruf. It is my recomendation that in fairness to the people at Ruf you are removed from the board. I think you should also probably be disbarred for discussing the details of a pending trial on a Porsche forum. Not to mention that if you are dealing with such a horrific case, the last thing on your mind should be the bumper on your Porsche. I am sure the guy who lost his whole family and had to hold up his mothers severed head would love to know that his lawyer was thinking about his next 6speed post rather than winning the case... Glad your not my lawyer since I've never seen anyone step on their own toes so well.

 

moderators are just regular members w/ the ability to halt the bull**** and move threads. They shouldn't have to watch what they say. They aren't our role models or anything

 

You cannot be for real. People get so bent and some of this thinking is bizarre.

Ban me if they want. Dont really care. There are people that I don't even know, saying they now don't want be my friend or they are putting me on their don't talk to list. Weird behaviour or strange dudes, I dunno which one it is.

BTW, I represent the defendant, what I told you is a matter of public record, and my bumper was the last thing on my mind Monday morning which is why no one got a telephone call about it until after my case got continued. I brought that up to show how trivial this is and I candidly still care very little about all of it.

This thread would have been about 1 page long except for my dumb *** constantly responding to ignorant stuff like this.

 

Very well put! But don't you think that you're being a bit harsh?
Doug got plenty of help escalating the matter. Besides by your logic half of this board should be booted for inappropriate posts.

Also, why not discuss the fact that you feel you have been ill treated by a company? Just because Ruf is a reputable company doesn't make them immune to complaints. And what is a more appropriate venue to bring it up among your peers, other than 6speed? I really don't see where Doug made an error posting his unfortunate experience with Ruf.

In regards to disclosing details of a pendig case, I have nothing to say.

 

This thread is not about moderators. However I think moderators should be held to a higher standard. They should be objective, fair and impartial in disputes. Although not rolemodels unless they really want to.

 

This is 100% the forum to discuss complaints about a tuner, but not untill the issue has been resolved. Doug created a disaster for himself. He should have dealt with ruf then posted an outcome. That is all I was trying to say. In all fairness to Doug I don't really think you should be kicked off the board, but I think alot of people need to think more before they post something. keep in mind lots of people can read this stuff....

 

The point of this thread is that I and many others don't see how he has had an unfortunate experience with Ruf (and the same would apply if it was any other tuner who had done this).

Ignoring the board postings on here entirely, the summary of the whole situation is that he has a problem with the final result of a Ruf supplied bumper after it was fitted by another firm. When he talks to Ruf they apologise and offer him a replacement or a refund......where's the bad experience in that.....?

 

Eg. (although exagerated)

"Here take your money back, I don't need your stinking business!"

"Sorry about the inconvenice, we'll gladly refund you your money!"

There is a difference although the outcome is the same.

I'm not saying that's how Ruf handled it but it seems Doug wasn't happy with how he was treated when the problem arose. So......I still maintain that when I spend money somewhere, I expect my experience to be a pleasant one. (Again call me crazy.)