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Old 08-13-2005 | 09:49 AM
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Angry Problem with Leather Dash

The leather near the front defrost vents is starting to develop ripples/bubbles in it. I have seen other 911s with the same problem, any ideas on how to fix it? I wish Porsche Certified warranty would handle this but the the service advisor said it doesn't cover any interior pieces.. what a jib!! Anyone else experience this? how do you fix this without replacing the whole dash?

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Old 08-13-2005 | 11:36 AM
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my carbon/leather windshield defrost strip is bubbling as well. The quality of some of this stuff at these prices charged leaves a lot to be desired.
 
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Did you get a warranty coverage paper? I thought interior is covered. I'd double check that and call Porsche or visit their site for detail. Otherwise, call another dealer.

I don't think there is an easy fix. You'll have to take out the piece that's bubbled and have it reglued on. Otherwise, you are looking at a new dash. Of course, you can always cover it up with a dash carpet but that's not a good look in my opinion. Did you leave the car in the sun a lot?
 
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Old 08-13-2005 | 12:09 PM
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Keeping the leather properly treated with condtioner wil help prevent this, especially when the car is in the sun alot.
 
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Old 08-13-2005 | 12:15 PM
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Originally posted by 1999Porsche911
Keeping the leather properly treated with condtioner wil help prevent this, especially when the car is in the sun alot.
This is debateable....some feel the dash leather should not be treated...
There was a thread on rennlist concerning treating the leather on the dash. Here's what Dock posted:

'The leather Porsche uses on the dash contains almost no moisture - it is specifically dried so there will be less "movement" as it goes through the big temperature changes that can occur on the dash. Introducing moisture back into the leather by using a conditioner will cause the leather to "move" with temperature changes and possibly break loose from the surface it is glued to. Here's what Porsche has to say about the leather used on the dash...

"All leather is not the same. We work with classic upholstery leather, but we also work with low-shrinkage leather. The instrument paneling, for example, can get extremely hot in summer. If the material starting tightening, what would that look like after a while? So we're talking about leather whose residual moisture has been largly removed, which means that it won't be able to shrink later." (Christophorus, No. 276 January 1999)

I have not applied *anything* to my leather dash (3.5 years old now) and it looks good as new."

The consensus seems to be... leave the dash leather alone.

I leave the dash leather alone and have had no problems...
 
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Old 08-13-2005 | 12:19 PM
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I am past the point of fixing it with a leather conditioner. I bought the car in Texas so that may be the cause. I always park it in the shade.

I will look in to the terms of the certified warranty and see what it says. Seems like it is open to interpretation by the service departments.

djantlive - it is the edge of the dash so it is not a seperate piece.
 
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Old 08-13-2005 | 12:30 PM
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Have an expert look at it...you would be amazed at what they can do to leather. Good luck with Porsche.
 
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My understanding of the Certified Warranty is that it does cover the dash. I had mine replaced on my 01 996TT when it bubbled up on Palm Desert last year.

The Certified Warranty does not cover small rattles and items of that sort. Press the issue.
 
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Bayarea - Thanks! Good to know that someone has had succes with this issue under warranty.
 
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I am getting deja vu regarding the conflicting opinions for leather care on the dash. I also do not know the answer, but there are a number of products that "restore" leather. Leatherique has a good product for this:

http://www.leatherique.com/

after restored, you might try sealing it (UV protection) with 303 Aerospace treatment:

http://www.303products.com/tech/index.cfm
 
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I have heard about this also. I was told by one dealer that he tries to talk people out of the leather option because of this.
 
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Porsche replaced my dash and passenger side c-pillar under warranty.
 
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Old 08-17-2005 | 09:31 PM
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The Porsche rep will look at it in person next time he's in town and decide.. I am keeping my fingers crossed.
 
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