Ending the Superbike vs Sportscar Debates
#31
08-30-2005, 08:31 PM
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Originally posted by dgussin1
yeah...the cobra is fast, but the bike still won to 140ish.
yeah...the cobra is fast, but the bike still won to 140ish.
Yes agree.. a r1000 will take you right off the bat...
but a high HP car will catch up eventually.
thats kinda what Im trying to say. Its one thing to take off and pull away... and another to take off and get caught at the end.
All in all... there are fast cars as well as faster bikes.... each situation is different and its hard to generalize.
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2001 996TT 3.6L and stock ECU
9.66 seconds @ 147.76 mph 1/4 mile click to view
160 mph @ 9.77 seconds in 1/4 mile click to view
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#33
08-30-2005, 08:43 PM
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I wasnt racing... I actually got pulled over.... loud exhaust and speeding. :what do u mean by "shifting".
-So maybe I drove like a grandpa.... I got one warning on I65... so I drove 80 mph all the way to F1.
"catching up" and and passing by... I meant to say. And I think it does matter... its obvious that a 320 lbs. bike with 150 HP will take off faster doing 70 mph... then a 3300 lbs car with 680 hp .... so just the mear fact that I catch up to a 1200 cc bike and eventaully beat him... counts in my book.
-So maybe I drove like a grandpa.... I got one warning on I65... so I drove 80 mph all the way to F1.
"catching up" and and passing by... I meant to say. And I think it does matter... its obvious that a 320 lbs. bike with 150 HP will take off faster doing 70 mph... then a 3300 lbs car with 680 hp .... so just the mear fact that I catch up to a 1200 cc bike and eventaully beat him... counts in my book.
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2001 996TT 3.6L and stock ECU
9.66 seconds @ 147.76 mph 1/4 mile click to view
160 mph @ 9.77 seconds in 1/4 mile click to view
50% OFF ON PORSCHE ECU TUNING BLACK FRIDAY SPECIAL
2001 996TT 3.6L and stock ECU
9.66 seconds @ 147.76 mph 1/4 mile click to view
160 mph @ 9.77 seconds in 1/4 mile click to view
50% OFF ON PORSCHE ECU TUNING BLACK FRIDAY SPECIAL
Last edited by markski@markskituning; 08-30-2005 at 08:52 PM.
#34
08-30-2005, 08:53 PM
no offense, but a 929 ain't even close to a zx10, zx12, gixxer 1000 or hayabusa ... the guy on that bike doesn't seem to be a very aggressive rider. .. fast cars are cool, fast bikes are cooler.. try one, a fast one..
#35
08-30-2005, 08:57 PM
Originally posted by MARKSKI
I wasnt racing... I actually got pulled over.... loud exhaust and speeding. :what do u mean by "shifting".
-So maybe I drove like a grandpa.... I got one warning on I65... so I drove 80 mph all the way to F1.
"catching up" and and passing by... I meant to say. And I think it does matter... its obvious that a 320 lbs. bike with 150 HP will take off faster doing 70 mph... then a 3300 lbs car with 680 hp .... so just the mear fact that I catch up to a 1200 cc bike and eventaully beat him... counts in my book.
I wasnt racing... I actually got pulled over.... loud exhaust and speeding. :what do u mean by "shifting".
-So maybe I drove like a grandpa.... I got one warning on I65... so I drove 80 mph all the way to F1.
"catching up" and and passing by... I meant to say. And I think it does matter... its obvious that a 320 lbs. bike with 150 HP will take off faster doing 70 mph... then a 3300 lbs car with 680 hp .... so just the mear fact that I catch up to a 1200 cc bike and eventaully beat him... counts in my book.
I am getting twin 57's on my cobra now (Craig watch out)...no more blower for me.
#36
08-30-2005, 09:01 PM
Guys, keep in mind these Ducati's, Aprillia's, and MV Augstas that are being compared to these supercars are by no means the quickest bikes out there... They are some of the best looking and handling, but the cheap 1000CC jap bikes eat them alive as far as acceleration goes...
A friend of mine had a race on his Honda CBR1000RR with a 550RWHP Mustang Cobra starting at 60, 80 and 100MPH.
The Results:
From 60MPH: ~10 Car Lengths
From 80MPH: ~8-9 Car Lengths
From 100MPH: ~6-7 Car Lengths
I had a C5 Z06 (probably stock) challenge me on my R1 while I was still in breakin and I pulled him a good bit shifting at only 7,000-8,000 RPMS at only 3/4 throttle (My bike redlines at 13,500! and makes its power up top).
It takes A LOT of power to beat a 1000cc+ bike.....
Evan
A friend of mine had a race on his Honda CBR1000RR with a 550RWHP Mustang Cobra starting at 60, 80 and 100MPH.
The Results:
From 60MPH: ~10 Car Lengths
From 80MPH: ~8-9 Car Lengths
From 100MPH: ~6-7 Car Lengths
I had a C5 Z06 (probably stock) challenge me on my R1 while I was still in breakin and I pulled him a good bit shifting at only 7,000-8,000 RPMS at only 3/4 throttle (My bike redlines at 13,500! and makes its power up top).
It takes A LOT of power to beat a 1000cc+ bike.....
Evan
Last edited by AMG ETR; 08-30-2005 at 09:05 PM.
#37
08-30-2005, 09:03 PM
Originally posted by AMG ETR
Guys, keep in mind these Ducati's, Aprillia's, and MV Augstas that are being compared to these supercars are by no means the quickest bikes out there... They are some of the best looking and handling, but the cheap 1000CC jap bikes eat them alive as far as acceleration goes...
A friend of mine had a race on his Honda CBR1000RR with a 650RWHP Mustang Cobra starting at 60, 80 and 100MPH.
The Results:
60MPH: ~10 Car Lengths
80MPH: ~8-9 Car Lengths
100MPH: ~6-7 Car Lengths
It takes A LOT of power to beat a 1000cc+ bike.....
Evan
Guys, keep in mind these Ducati's, Aprillia's, and MV Augstas that are being compared to these supercars are by no means the quickest bikes out there... They are some of the best looking and handling, but the cheap 1000CC jap bikes eat them alive as far as acceleration goes...
A friend of mine had a race on his Honda CBR1000RR with a 650RWHP Mustang Cobra starting at 60, 80 and 100MPH.
The Results:
60MPH: ~10 Car Lengths
80MPH: ~8-9 Car Lengths
100MPH: ~6-7 Car Lengths
It takes A LOT of power to beat a 1000cc+ bike.....
Evan
#38
08-30-2005, 09:06 PM
Originally posted by dgussin1
if u want I know a lot of guys in florida with fast newer cobras that should do pretty well with a liter bike...I could arrange a friendly meeting.
if u want I know a lot of guys in florida with fast newer cobras that should do pretty well with a liter bike...I could arrange a friendly meeting.
Evan
PS- I messed up the HP in my post, he was making 550RWHP....
#39
08-30-2005, 09:07 PM
Originally posted by MARKSKI
I wasnt racing... I actually got pulled over.... loud exhaust and speeding. :what do u mean by "shifting".
I wasnt racing... I actually got pulled over.... loud exhaust and speeding. :what do u mean by "shifting".
let us know when you setup the race with JR.
I won't hate.
#40
08-30-2005, 09:14 PM
There is a little 98 pound gal over at S Car Go Racing that says she hasn't seen a street legal 996tt yet that can take her in the quarter on her bike.............. and I'm not going to argue with her 
Last edited by cjv; 08-30-2005 at 09:19 PM.
#41
08-30-2005, 09:19 PM
Originally posted by cjv
There is a little 98 pound gal over at S Car Go Racing that says she hasn't seen a street legal 996tt yet that can take her in the quarter on her bike.
There is a little 98 pound gal over at S Car Go Racing that says she hasn't seen a street legal 996tt yet that can take her in the quarter on her bike.
BTW- Sorry bout today Chad, I am on some pain meds (percocet) as I just had dental surgery
Evan
#43
08-30-2005, 09:24 PM
Originally posted by cjv
Evan,
If that's the case then you were doing pretty good.
Evan,
If that's the case then you were doing pretty good.
Yea had my wisdom teeth out (all 4)... I did send an email to Germany so I will have your answer tomorrow for sure!Evan
#44
08-30-2005, 10:37 PM
I honestly dont' see how this can be a debate.
Of course there are cars out there that will take bikes down, it's obvious.
I've raced motorcycles for 10 years, i've not had the pleasure of owning a great pcar or fcar so there is not much i can say about them, however in all my years riding, when on the street i've never encountered a car that could keep up, do they exist... most definetly.
Cars, bikes, who cares they're all fun, love em both, how could one not????
Now if we were to take stock cars against stock bikes , i dont think there is any stock car that could keep up with the top jap liter bikes. If you want to throw mods into the equation, then again the car will lose, take a lengthened swingarm, front suspension straps and either nitrous or a turbo and you've got a bike that will do in the 7 second range
As far as tracking on a real road course, the bike loses. Just doens't have the same grip available in the corners. Simple.
Of course there are cars out there that will take bikes down, it's obvious.
I've raced motorcycles for 10 years, i've not had the pleasure of owning a great pcar or fcar so there is not much i can say about them, however in all my years riding, when on the street i've never encountered a car that could keep up, do they exist... most definetly.
Cars, bikes, who cares they're all fun, love em both, how could one not????
Now if we were to take stock cars against stock bikes , i dont think there is any stock car that could keep up with the top jap liter bikes. If you want to throw mods into the equation, then again the car will lose, take a lengthened swingarm, front suspension straps and either nitrous or a turbo and you've got a bike that will do in the 7 second range
As far as tracking on a real road course, the bike loses. Just doens't have the same grip available in the corners. Simple.