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Old 02-05-2014 | 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by teflon_jones
Now this part I can't understand. How often exactly do you look at the undercarriage of your car? And are you trying to tell me you get more satisfaction from looking at a green bolt than you do from driving the car? And I hate to break it to you, but other than those green bolts, you've got some big corroded parts already in those pictures. Everything else in your pictures is stainless, galvanized, plastic or otherwise not going to rust and won't show any appreciable wear that can't be washed off with some soap and water. But it's your car! Like many other crazy 911 owners, you're just burning daylight, wasting a wonderful winter car.
Sorry, no big corroded parts, don't know what your looking at? Yup I love looking at green bolts. You have an impressive build, ask Dan if he'd rather work on a mint like new car or a winter beater from the rust belt.

I wrench for a living and having a nice to look at undercarriage is more important to me than driving my turbo on freshly salted slushy roads.

Oh and weekend before last I took her her out in the west desert for a near 200 mile loop and stretched her legs. Tried for 175 mph but the 2 lane road was just too rough. It was hard to stay in my lane at 160. I do have fun believe me.
 
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Old 02-05-2014 | 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by nick49
Sorry, no big corroded parts, don't know what your looking at?
Don't get me wrong, it's very clean underneath, but in your second photo there is clear rust in the top right corner of the picture, and oxidation on the aluminum at bottom center, and other noticeable oxidation/corrosion. This is inevitable on any car that's 10 years old, no matter how well you keep it.

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Yup I love looking at green bolts.
To each their own! I've seen more than a few guys on here that clean their suspension, brakes, etc with a toothbrush (or even have several different brushes ) and I think they're nuts, but whatever makes you happy.

Originally Posted by nick49
You have an impressive build, ask Dan if he'd rather work on a mint like new car or a winter beater from the rust belt.

I wrench for a living and having a nice to look at undercarriage is more important to me than driving my turbo on freshly salted slushy roads.
Thank you for the compliment on my build, it's quite a car to drive. I've wrenched a lot in my life, and fought with more than my share of rusted nuts and bolts with penetrating oil, impact tools, breaker bars (with and without 3' pipe extensions), drills, saws and torches, so believe me I appreciate a green bolt head more than most people!

Of course some of the most difficult bolts I've had to remove were stainless bolts from aluminum where there didn't appear to be much corrosion. But now I'm just poking the bear (i.e. you).

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Oh and weekend before last I took her her out in the west desert for a near 200 mile loop and stretched her legs. Tried for 175 mph but the 2 lane road was just too rough. It was hard to stay in my lane at 160. I do have fun believe me.
Now that I am always happy to hear. A lot of the garage queens rarely or never see triple digits. Good idea to not go for 175 on a rough road. The center line turns into a bump at those speeds.
 
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Old 02-06-2014 | 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by teflon_jones
in your second photo there is clear rust in the top right corner of the picture, and oxidation on the aluminum at bottom center, and other noticeable oxidation/corrosion.
What appears to be rust is my cameras flash accentuating the cosmolene over spray on a rubber coolant hose. There is no oxidation on any of the aluminum either. If my car was as bad is it appeared to you I wouldn't hesitate to drive it in the salty slush:-) There is also cosmolene sprayed on my lower control arms and tie rods as you can see. Oh, and I'm not AC about cleaning my cars. I did remove the bumper cover to clean out the rads and took the fender liners off just to check things out. I did hose off and was surprised how nice everything looked. As one that works on this stuff daily, I can appreciate clean underpinnings like most can appreciate a freshly washed and waxed body. To me the car is only as clean an its dirtiest part.
 
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Once you have a turbo, its very hard to go back to a NA car. Consider a 997.2 turbo which you can get with the dual clutch tranny.
 
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You should definitely get the S model if you do get a 991. Still short on torque compared to the turbo but it has a good top end.
 
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Old 02-07-2014 | 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by nick49
What appears to be rust is my cameras flash accentuating the cosmolene over spray on a rubber coolant hose. There is no oxidation on any of the aluminum either. If my car was as bad is it appeared to you I wouldn't hesitate to drive it in the salty slush:-) There is also cosmolene sprayed on my lower control arms and tie rods as you can see. Oh, and I'm not AC about cleaning my cars. I did remove the bumper cover to clean out the rads and took the fender liners off just to check things out. I did hose off and was surprised how nice everything looked. As one that works on this stuff daily, I can appreciate clean underpinnings like most can appreciate a freshly washed and waxed body. To me the car is only as clean an its dirtiest part.
Ah, thanks for the clarification!

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Once you have a turbo, its very hard to go back to a NA car. Consider a 997.2 turbo which you can get with the dual clutch tranny.
I couldn't agree more. The Turbos are significantly more powerful than any of their NA brethren. The only car I would consider to replace a turbo for street driving would be maybe a GT3RS. But I've had that opportunity and passed on it since my car is tracked probably 10-15 days per year, but driven on the street ten times that much.
 
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