Originally Posted by danhaug70
(Post 4043097)
I'm considering an exhaust for my first mod...
Will I HAVE to do anything to run a different exhaust, or will the stock ecu be able to adjust for the free flow? Thanks again for all of the help. I truly am a newb with this stuff and I sure appreciate your guidance. Thanks to all, I am taking each piece of advice to heart. P.S. I am considering doing ONLY an exhaust mod. Thoughts? HI,,You will be fine if you stick with a 200 cell cat. system. If you go with a 100 cell you might have a cell light,, Then you would have to try O2 extenders since you aren't going to get a tune.. Good Luck |
Originally Posted by danhaug70
(Post 4043097)
I'm considering an exhaust for my first mod...
Will I HAVE to do anything to run a different exhaust, or will the stock ecu be able to adjust for the free flow? Thanks again for all of the help. I truly am a newb with this stuff and I sure appreciate your guidance. Thanks to all, I am taking each piece of advice to heart. P.S. I am considering doing ONLY an exhaust mod. Thoughts? but if you put on a system with no cats its likely your gonna see a CEL on the dash without a flash. you will not take full advantage of the exhaust without the flash. flash ups the boost level, increases timing, and leans the car out some. |
Originally Posted by OS Inspector
(Post 4043138)
flash ups the boost level, increases timing, and leans the car out some.
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Originally Posted by horsepowerfarm
(Post 4043163)
I'm pretty sure you would want to add some fuel rather than lean it out.
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Originally Posted by OS Inspector
(Post 4043166)
OEM cars generally run fat, so id say 90% of tunes lean the afr's some and if you up the boost of course you want to increase the fuel trims to compensate.
Yes,, Agreed.. |
Originally Posted by OS Inspector
(Post 4043138)
you will not take full advantage of the exhaust without the flash.
flash ups the boost level. |
Originally Posted by horsepowerfarm
(Post 4043192)
You stated flash ups the boost level. Raise the boost add fuel. So, I respectfully disagree.
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Originally Posted by OS Inspector
(Post 4043166)
OEM cars generally run fat, so id say 90% of tunes lean the afr's some and if you up the boost of course you want to increase the fuel trims to compensate.
first part of this sentence says lean the afr's, second part says give it more fuel for more boost. increasing fuel trims to compensate for more boost would mean more fuel. so technically its both! |
When you flash a car you rewrite the target AFR's, boost targets, ignition targets. If you removed the limit on a stock tune it will hold the target afr the the stock flash is requesting(target) right up till the map sensor cant read and the O2's feed back is outside the +/- 25% trim. Talking about removing limits... Why do you think k16 and k24 flashes work so well? Yup Porsche/Bosch got it right and just limited the cars for the masses.
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Originally Posted by danhaug70
(Post 4043097)
P.S.
I am considering doing ONLY an exhaust mod. Thoughts? |
A good tune and exhaust makes a world of difference.
As dar as Tuning, oem target Afrs are pretty lean and the 997s even leaner (.85 lambda on boost) and that's how they make power with lower boost( among other things). |
Originally Posted by MARKSKI@911tuning
(Post 4046502)
A good tune and exhaust makes a world of difference.
As dar as Tuning, oem target Afrs are pretty lean and the 997s even leaner (.85 lambda on boost) and that's how they make power with lower boost( among other things). I saw dyno and AFR sheets on a few stock cars and they were on the rich side in the higher RPM range on full boost?? I thought and was told that's normal for safety reasons from Porsche? |
996 more so then 997. But 997 is very lean.
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Originally Posted by MARKSKI@911tuning
(Post 4046621)
996 more so then 997. But 997 is very lean.
The AFRs were in the high 10s on both 996 turbos |
I can email you logs on did on my oem 997. Including te pic of the target afrs. :)
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