Here you go GT3 owners.........
#32
11-11-2003, 09:16 AM
Watt:
I'm largely in agreement with you. Obviously, I cannot comment directly as I have had neither car out on the track. I also agree that driving lessons are the biggest thing you can do. That is why I have a data acquisition system, what I consider to be a permanent and perfect instructor.
Rockitman: Yes, hp (and more importantly fat torque) may not win races but no racer in the history of mankind would turn it down.
Here is my claim (just a claim, have no hard data). The same expert driver in a heavily modded tt (full suspension and stage 4gt), equal tires, would beat a stock GT-2. I think the hp and torque would be too big of a hurdle to overcome but this is only a guess.
Let’s go to the ring for some time comparisons: (the numbers aren’t very good for comparison as they are not well controlled, but that’s all I have)
New GT3: 7 min. 54 sec.
Old GT3: 8 min. 03 sec.
GT2: 7 min. 46 sec.
996 Turbo: 7 min. 56 sec.
http://www.nordschleife.no/
OK, the primary difference between the GT3 and the GT2 is hp/torque, so the GT got 8 seconds with 97 hp and 187 torque (big difference).
The Stage4GT tt would have 640 hp 670 torque, so 163 more hp and 198 more torque than the GT2. I think the GT-2 would be in serious trouble and if it didn’t win, it sure wouldn’t lose by much.
I'm largely in agreement with you. Obviously, I cannot comment directly as I have had neither car out on the track. I also agree that driving lessons are the biggest thing you can do. That is why I have a data acquisition system, what I consider to be a permanent and perfect instructor.
Rockitman: Yes, hp (and more importantly fat torque) may not win races but no racer in the history of mankind would turn it down.
Here is my claim (just a claim, have no hard data). The same expert driver in a heavily modded tt (full suspension and stage 4gt), equal tires, would beat a stock GT-2. I think the hp and torque would be too big of a hurdle to overcome but this is only a guess.
Let’s go to the ring for some time comparisons: (the numbers aren’t very good for comparison as they are not well controlled, but that’s all I have)
New GT3: 7 min. 54 sec.
Old GT3: 8 min. 03 sec.
GT2: 7 min. 46 sec.
996 Turbo: 7 min. 56 sec.
http://www.nordschleife.no/
OK, the primary difference between the GT3 and the GT2 is hp/torque, so the GT got 8 seconds with 97 hp and 187 torque (big difference).
The Stage4GT tt would have 640 hp 670 torque, so 163 more hp and 198 more torque than the GT2. I think the GT-2 would be in serious trouble and if it didn’t win, it sure wouldn’t lose by much.
#34
11-11-2003, 09:28 AM
don't know how to post these pics, but
go here and click on them for a 996 SC vs. GT3 dyno for both hp and torque996 SC vs. GT3
#35
11-11-2003, 09:29 AM
Jasclass:
Have you tracked your GT-2 and tt back to back? What times did you turn, What ?/10 can you drive in each? Very curious.
Have you tracked your GT-2 and tt back to back? What times did you turn, What ?/10 can you drive in each? Very curious.
#37
11-12-2003, 06:30 AM
Jasclass:
I'm a little confused. You argue (well and rightfully), that the GT-2 is an awesome track car (and I agree), but then you haven't tracked it. Do you plan to?
I'm a little confused. You argue (well and rightfully), that the GT-2 is an awesome track car (and I agree), but then you haven't tracked it. Do you plan to?
#39
11-12-2003, 09:31 AM
Jasclass:
Please track them all. We would love to hear first hand from someone who has all three cars. Damn .. pease reconsider.
Please track them all. We would love to hear first hand from someone who has all three cars. Damn .. pease reconsider.
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