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Old 07-02-2014 | 06:55 PM
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Tranny noise on acceleration and in neutral

Let me explain: In the higher gears 4th and up, I am hearing a growl/bearing type sound when accelerating. If I was to guess, I would say pinion bearing-noise seems to be coming from the rear. However, if I am cruising at 70 mph or so if I put the tranny in neutral, I also hear this sound and when I apply the brakes, the sound goes away. Now a little history, I did not hear this sound before I changed tires. I changed the rears and I got massive PSM intervention. Then I changed the fronts and PSM problem solved, but then I started to hear this howl. What do you guys think?
And thanks for reading this long story saga, Mike
PS I also have the LWF
 
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Old 07-02-2014 | 07:49 PM
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What tires? what about on and off the gas?
 
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you may be right, and need to replace your transmission bearings. but if you're lucky? it could simply be a wheel bearing, although that you should hear most any gear, anytime. 3rd or 4th and decelerating particularly? it's trans bearings.

though "howl" is how i'd describe a bad wheel bearing. while bad trans bearings "whine".

this could also all be explained simply by a bad stretch of road lol.
 
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Originally Posted by mikerosi
Let me explain: In the higher gears 4th and up, I am hearing a growl/bearing type sound when accelerating. If I was to guess, I would say pinion bearing-noise seems to be coming from the rear. However, if I am cruising at 70 mph or so if I put the tranny in neutral, I also hear this sound and when I apply the brakes, the sound goes away. Now a little history, I did not hear this sound before I changed tires. I changed the rears and I got massive PSM intervention. Then I changed the fronts and PSM problem solved, but then I started to hear this howl. What do you guys think?
And thanks for reading this long story saga, Mike
PS I also have the LWF
In my case its always Murphy's law and the worse proves to be the case. I hope you are luckier...; my money is on the gbox bearings.

However, as noise began as you've changed tyres I would also consider the front diff. Front diff can make noise if wrong tyre (circumference) sizes are mounted.
 
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Same problem but with tiptronic

Hey guys I am having the same problem- cars currently at transmission shop - whine happen to be coming from gbox- any ideas or recommendations on where to get replacement bearings for a tippy gbox? Or maybe some part numbers to cross reference? I'm trying to get some pics posted maybe you guys know which one it is -

The irony behind your posts is I did recently have my tires (michelins) changed / then my problem started - although they did sound diagnostic/test and said it's coming from the front gearbox - took front access cover off and stated there is wear on the bearings. Do now we are hunting for replacements rather than a complete rebuild /
Any help is greatly appreciated -
 
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Old 07-03-2014 | 05:48 AM
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Hey guys I am having the same problem- cars currently at transmission shop - whine happen to be coming from gbox- any ideas or recommendations on where to get replacement bearings for a tippy gbox? Or maybe some part numbers to cross reference? I'm trying to get some pics posted maybe you guys know which one it is -

The irony behind your posts is I did recently have my tires (michelins) changed / then my problem started - although they did sound diagnostic/test and said it's coming from the front gearbox - took front access cover off and stated there is wear on the bearings. Do now we are hunting for replacements rather than a complete rebuild /
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if your talking about the front diff and its the same as a manual front diff i have a unit with 30k on it when removed.
 
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What tires? what about on and off the gas?
Hey Tim this my second set of Sumitomas and the first set worked great
Yeah, on and off the gas I hear the noise, Mike
 
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my 3rd gear has a pitch sound and i have a clunk noise on and off the gas ...
sounds like i may need to rebuild soon ...
 
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Old 07-03-2014 | 07:56 PM
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my 3rd gear has a pitch sound and i have a clunk noise on and off the gas ...
sounds like i may need to rebuild soon ...
I had a clunk noise about a year ago. Turned out to be the DMF
I am getting the growly whine sound
 
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not an expert but sounds like i have trans mount (clunk) and or shaft bearing (whining)...

Originally Posted by mikerosi
I had a clunk noise about a year ago. Turned out to be the DMF
I am getting the growly whine sound
 

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I know there is more involved then just miles causing these issues but am still curious of the mileage on these cars with worn mounts/bearings etc.
 
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Old 07-04-2014 | 08:38 AM
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I have 90K on my tranny
 
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I have 90K on my tranny
at the risk of repeating myself. you have bearings gone bad.
This is a pinion bearing, thrust bearing problem. The part number is
999-052-164-00
 

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yes this well could be the problem, but I will disconnect the front driveshaft just to confirm.Now the big question...........how much with a tranny R&R? I live in the SF bay area, Does anyone have a recommendation for a good tranny shop? Thanks Mike
 
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yes this well could be the problem, but I will disconnect the front driveshaft just to confirm.Now the big question...........how much with a tranny R&R? I live in the SF bay area, Does anyone have a recommendation for a good tranny shop? Thanks Mike
if its the trans its a good time to consider a built trans. these are m/b transmissions so paramount performance or southern hot rods can build you a beast if you want big hp
 


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