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Old 07-06-2014 | 09:56 AM
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Thank you all for your help!

At this point I think my best option is:
Stock Sachs clutch kit for $705 shipped, made in Germany, supposedly
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Single mass flywheel, since stock clutch disk has springs, I see no reason for the extra clunk between the gears.
I PM'd samboTT@... so let's see what he siggests.
 
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Old 07-06-2014 | 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Mish_Mish
thats sam. use the exact part # pwderhound is giving you and ask sam. either p/h shop or sam you can't go wrong with this type of setup for your power.

if you decide to use an ebay vendor i would ask for specific part # from them before buying. ebay can be notorious for saying it flits and then doesn't. for that price i would hazard a guess thats for a n/a 911 not a turbo car
 

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Old 07-06-2014 | 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Mish_Mish
Thank you all for your help!

At this point I think my best option is:
Stock Sachs clutch kit for $705 shipped, made in Germany, supposedly
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Single mass flywheel, since stock clutch disk has springs, I see no reason for the extra clunk between the gears.
I PM'd samboTT@... so let's see what he siggests.
sam is gonna suggest a stock sachs oem clutch w or w/out a gt2 disc. or just tell me i have zero idea wtf i'm yappin about lol. sheesh.

if you don't want the clatter at idle, simply replace with the oem dmfw!
 
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Old 07-06-2014 | 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by '02996ttx50
sam is gonna suggest a stock sachs oem clutch w or w/out a gt2 disc. or just tell me i have zero idea wtf i'm yappin about lol. sheesh.

if you don't want the clatter at idle, simply replace with the oem dmfw!
So SMFW creates that notorious idle rattle? How does it do that?
 
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Old 07-06-2014 | 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Mish_Mish
So SMFW creates that notorious idle rattle? How does it do that?
i'm going to hazard a guess, and say it has less "mass" lol. but i am no expert, beyond having a good working if not technically oriented sense of what works for my car.

i am approx 475-500rwhp rwd and will never burn thru my new stock clutch. not in this lifetime. i too "almost" went for the lwfw, but got one dmfw almost "new" that purportedly came out of that guy rogers car that died with pwalker ( RIP! ) as apparently he wasn't gonna need it anymore .

bottom line is i didn't want to ADD noise to the car as it's loud enough. though i would LOVE the quicker revs that the lwfw allows for.
 
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Old 07-06-2014 | 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by '02996ttx50
i don't think he was asking about the 4.0 kit at all john!? but i may have misread "him". he was merely asking about replacing his stock clutch.

dollars to doughnuts he'll never exceed the limit of a stock clutch, add to that possibly a gt2 disc? and he's good for years.

unless of course he lets someone roll his car onto a transport truck again lol

i'm just sayin.. ALL your stuff is maxed out racegear. it's not necessarily for "everyone" necessarily. in the same way some folks like the hyd assisted clutch.. while ANYone that might argue the gt2 setup isn't "better" and less prone to "failure(s), would be nuts! is IS "better" if not "softer"! lol. but you see my point?

this guy doesn't need a racing setup.. imo.
No sweat. I just read his post #17 where he was asking about places to guy the 4.0 kit..
 
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Old 07-06-2014 | 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by pwdrhound
No sweat. I just read his post #17 where he was asking about places to guy the 4.0 kit..
it's all good man.. if i had to ask ANYone what parts would be best for the car depending upon usage/application. it's you and sambo. hands down.
 
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Old 07-06-2014 | 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by pwdrhound
Wrong kit again. The Vivid kit has the medium strength PP along with the solid disc. Would not waste your money on this. It's only marginally better than stock.

This is what is in the 764PP/964RSLWFW/997GT3RS4.0 kit. Make sure you are getting the 997 part number 4.0 disc and not the old style GT3RS disc with the blue springs. There are probably a few of those sitting on shelves. Those are noisy.


What does this kit hold as far as whp and wtrq?
 
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Old 07-06-2014 | 11:21 AM
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What does this kit hold as far as whp and wtrq?
Holds what I'm running. I think it's good for 600 whp or so...
 
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Old 07-06-2014 | 11:29 AM
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And I will 2nd Powerhound's suggestion to also give Kevin at UMW a call. He has these kits in stock ready to go, with all the exact part numbers and PRECISE written instructions for any good independent shop to follow for a perfect installation.

http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforum...-445-00-a.html

Not to mention Kevin is a heckuva nice guy to deal with.

Cheers
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Old 07-06-2014 | 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by pwdrhound
Holds what I'm running. I think it's good for 600 whp or so...
Nice, definitely a good choice then!

Originally Posted by quick968
And I will 2nd Powerhound's suggestion to also give Kevin at UMW a call. He has these kits in stock ready to go, with all the exact part numbers and PRECISE written instructions for any good independent shop to follow for perfect installation.

http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforum...-445-00-a.html

Not to mention Kevin is a heckuva nice guy to deal with.

Cheers
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Yes he is and he knows clutches like no one's business....
 
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Old 07-06-2014 | 06:11 PM
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i like my clutch, its in signature, feels like stock but it grabs crazy, it rattles a little a little as well on idle but i dont mind
 
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Old 07-06-2014 | 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by MadWhip
i like my clutch, its in signature, feels like stock but it grabs crazy, it rattles a little a little as well on idle but i dont mind
This s bit of an overkill, definitely above my budget.
 
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Old 07-08-2014 | 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Mish_Mish
I do not like how it grabs toward the top
Before you go spend money on a new clutch, you may want to try removing the clutch assist spring. It's an easy/free DIY mod that is fully reversible if you don't like it.

https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...er-spring.html

I absolutely hated the way stock clutch felt because the engagement point was not consistent. I had a hard time shifting through gears smoothly.
With the spring removed, the clutch feel is much more linear. The pedal effort did go up a little bit, but still not bad (I still have the hydraulic assist).
 
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Old 07-08-2014 | 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by tkuwaha
Before you go spend money on a new clutch, you may want to try removing the clutch assist spring. It's an easy/free DIY mod that is fully reversible if you don't like it.

https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...er-spring.html

I absolutely hated the way stock clutch felt because the engagement point was not consistent. I had a hard time shifting through gears smoothly.
With the spring removed, the clutch feel is much more linear. The pedal effort did go up a little bit, but still not bad (I still have the hydraulic assist).
I shall try that, thank you!
 


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