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Old 11-05-2005 | 04:07 PM
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I'm sorry, but the porsche sales manager guys don't know anymore then some of the sources here

NO ONE KNOWS what it's gonna be except the guys building them right now
Ok, umm thanks for basically repeating what i wrote lol, i was agreeing with you guys and said it myself that he probably knows the slightest bit more than us if that!!

I just said it doesnt make sense, time will tell
 
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<--- reading comprehension problems

edit: not so much actually

" he probably knows a little more than we do and he said it will be 500+"
 
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<--- reading comprehension problems

edit: not so much actually

" he probably knows a little more than we do and he said it will be 500+"
Key phrase, he probably knows a little more than we do
 
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Guys, from someone who is actually "in the know" with the 997TT: The 997TT will be rated at 480-500 HP (probably more in reality), top speed will be around 200 mph and it will accelerate from 0-125 in a hair over 12 seconds. The 997TTS will be rated at about 525 HP (we can only guess its true power), have a top speed of about 203 mph and accelerate from 0-125 in under 12 seconds. If that is disappointing, you might want to buy a Viper...

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Guys, from someone who is actually "in the know" with the 997TT: The 997TT will be rated at 480-500 HP (probably more in reality), top speed will be around 200 mph and it will accelerate from 0-125 in a hair over 12 seconds. The 997TTS will be rated at about 525 HP (we can only guess its true power), have a top speed of about 203 mph and accelerate from 0-125 in under 12 seconds. If that is disappointing, you might want to buy a Viper...

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WHAT, if that is true those perf. figures are insane.. Buy a viper?? A stock 997tt will trump a viper from the look of it let alone an x50 or S, w/e they will come out with.. 0-125mph in 12 or under is just ridiculous :BOW:
 
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Originally posted by iLLM3
WHAT, if that is true those perf. figures are insane.. Buy a viper?? A stock 997tt will trump a viper from the look of it let alone an x50 or S, w/e they will come out with.. 0-125mph in 12 or under is just ridiculous :BOW:
997 GT2 anyone?
 
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Originally posted by Crash
Guys, from someone who is actually "in the know" with the 997TT: The 997TT will be rated at 480-500 HP (probably more in reality), top speed will be around 200 mph and it will accelerate from 0-125 in a hair over 12 seconds. The 997TTS will be rated at about 525 HP (we can only guess its true power), have a top speed of about 203 mph and accelerate from 0-125 in under 12 seconds. If that is disappointing, you might want to buy a Viper...

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if these numbers are true, it will be an appropriate evolution given the competition. Any info on weight? Porsche should drop the "S" bs... just give us the car like that from the start! You don't see an F430 "S" do you? The CS is more comparable to the GT2... That is just Porsche being greedy and it pisses me off.
 
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Cool

Hell, since we're all pulling numbers out of our *****, let me add mine:

481 HP Standard 997 TT
524 HP "X50" 997 TT

(I predict a slightly higher delta between the base and X50 variant than the 996 models)



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Hell, since we're all pulling numbers out of our *****, let me add mine:

481 HP Standard 997 TT
524 HP "X50" 997 TT

(I predict a slightly higher delta between the base and X50 variant than the 996 models)



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Not bad
 
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I agree, I think we choose to drive european cars for more then just flat out acceleration. Its the combination of styling, interiors, heritage, performance that makes the whole package, something a vette will never offer for me.

I'd even take my C4S over the vette anyday, even though it will smoke me off the line and on the track. I like the p car!

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I don't believe that anyone will argue that point either, buddy. Hands down, the best bang for the buck. However, the car just doesn't do it for me. I dunno why. I think that it has to do with the rear hatch vs trunk as was the difference with the C5 and C5 Z06. It doesn't differ from the C6 enough for my tastes. I dunno, there is just something about it that doesn't sit well with me...
 
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Without a doubt the '06 Z06 has put a new spin on bang-for-the-buck in terms of performance. However I made a comment about how the performance engineering is an A, the beancounters knock off a letter grade or two, (service is a D), so the whole platform kind of averages out to a C+ (this coming from a 4 time Vette owner).

I hope my experience with a 996/TT is better as a *whole*.

Recent example of penny pinchers at GM doing something retarded - they only produced left side brake rotors to cut costs. So the Z06 (and C6 w/ Z51 package) left side rotors are fine, but the right side are lefts "flipped over", so the drill pattern swirls the opposite direction, but even worse, the cooling veins are also backwards... "Hey, my right wide brakes are fading??"

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Without a doubt the '06 Z06 has put a new spin on bang-for-the-buck in terms of performance. However I made a comment about how the performance engineering is an A, the beancounters knock off a letter grade or two, (service is a D), so the whole platform kind of averages out to a C+ (this coming from a 4 time Vette owner).

I hope my experience with a 996/TT is better as a *whole*.

Recent example of penny pinchers at GM doing something retarded - they only produced left side brake rotors to cut costs. So the Z06 (and C6 w/ Z51 package) left side rotors are fine, but the right side are lefts "flipped over", so the drill pattern swirls the opposite direction, but even worse, the cooling veins are also backwards... "Hey, my right wide brakes are fading??"

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I hope you are not serious about the brake situation, if so WTF
 
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Old 11-05-2005 | 07:50 PM
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Originally posted by HotRodGuy
If you are cross shopping a 997TT and the rest of those cars you listed because of their power, You aren't in it for the reasons most are. The TT is alot more of a sports car then the AMG and M cars.
Everybody has their reasons, but for a lot of people it is a semi-sports car with good interior & Porsche quality/status. I bet less than 25% of TT's every go to the track. Most just end up being really fast transportation on the streets & freeways, maybe up a canyon. I'm probably closer to most of the "regular" people that buy this car in that it would be for an everyday car, with the very rare track day. In that case a nice M6 would do fine as well. Most hard core enthusiasts would be in a GT2 or GT3 instead.
 
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As far as power jumps, even though the 993TT to 996TT power jump was negligible, the prior jumps were each about 50 hp.
 
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It's a real situation:

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...4&page=1&pp=20

(That's just one thread about it, there are a few on all the major Vette boards)

Some people are of course making excuses "It has a 427" , and "for $70K you can't expect everything to be perfect"

I mean, I don't expect Porsche ownership to be Nirvana, but I would think they would execute the details like brake rotors correctly (?) Just one of those small oversights like headlamp plugs falling out, rocking seat backs, the steering column locking up - nothing epic, and usually nothing with the powertrain, but *very* annoying...

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I hope you are not serious about the brake situation, if so WTF
 


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