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Originally posted by Divexxtreme
Typically the car with a higher trap speed is faster (Enzo in this case)...but with cars this fast it's very hard to say what would happen from a roll. I tend to think the higher revving (more time under the curve), more aerodynamic and lighter Enzo would be quicker....Crash seems to think the opposite...but there's no way to know for sure just yet.
Yea i totally agree with what your saying, kind of makes the most sense.. BTW R&T got the RT12 to do the 1/4 in 11.0 at 133.9 and enzo from R&T was 11.1 at 133.1, that's why i asked
 
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It is incredible that Ruf makes a car that is so driveable, yet so ultra-fast. Anyone can go shopping in this car.

Don't ask a lady's age, but she's over 80



If you have any questions about the R&T article you can ask me, I was there when they tested the car.
 
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Originally posted by Erik
It is incredible that Ruf makes a car that is so driveable, yet so ultra-fast. Anyone can go shopping in this car.

Don't ask a lady's age, but she's over 80

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If you have any questions about the R&T article you can ask me, I was there when they tested the car.

common erik, did she really drive the ruf???

if so, i would be really impressed!!!
 
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Originally posted by Erik
It is incredible that Ruf makes a car that is so driveable, yet so ultra-fast. Anyone can go shopping in this car.

Don't ask a lady's age, but she's over 80



If you have any questions about the R&T article you can ask me, I was there when they tested the car.
What I don´t understand is how the Rt12 can turn such amazing times with RWD on 305s and hardly any loss of traction, while the Manthey, admittedly being about a second faster than an Rt12 to 200 kph, has serious traction problems WITH AWD... I´d expect the Ruf to spin like crazy...
 
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common erik, did she really drive the ruf???
No, she did not.

BUT - I don't see a problem with that she could.

The RT12 is not hard to drive. If you can drive a stock 911 you can drive the 911. The main difference is the speed of which the speedo moves.
 
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No, she did not.

BUT - I don't see a problem with that she could.

The RT12 is not hard to drive. If you can drive a stock 911 you can drive the 911. The main difference is the speed of which the speedo moves.
That sounds very encouraging. Might just get a GT2 and put a 3.8 in it
 
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Originally posted by cjv
In most case nothing is under or over rated! It usually is, we, John Q. Gullible, allow whoever, to legally manipulate our impressions.

The car has six hundred hp! This really doesn't mean a thing without all the facts. The questions that must be asked and provided is:

1) Manufacture of dyno.
2) Type of dyno (awd or rwd)
3) Standard being used for the recording of the values.

They have the possibility of varying as much as almost 40% and yet having the same values when compared with the three above standards being the same.

Some people use the values to under rate and others use the valves to over rate. When John Q. Gullible attempts to compare dissimular data he is left in "left field" so to speak.

I guess the best way to expalin it would be to say your house is worth $5,000,000.00 dollars. You simply didn't say if it was Canadian or US dollars.
smart man. talk of comparing dyno numbers as absolutes.. straight line numbers as absolutes...

c'mon fellas. you sound like a boy racer forum.
 
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Originally posted by Erik
It is incredible that Ruf makes a car that is so driveable, yet so ultra-fast. Anyone can go shopping in this car.

Don't ask a lady's age, but she's over 80



If you have any questions about the R&T article you can ask me, I was there when they tested the car.
Haha that's great, i want one badly
 
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Based on my experience with RUF cars that RT12 is making 700 hp on the US Dyno's.

Still you could buy a brand new Carrera S and have EVO do a full twin turbo kit, interior and exterior, suspension, wheels, etc... for probably $200,000.00 total versus the $287,000.00 for the RUF.

I am not saying bad things about RUF just saying they are expensive and there are other options.

 
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Hell, the Yellow Bird did 11.7 at 133.5 in 1987, thats only .4MPH in 18 years! These tuners need to get their act in gear. All the new computer stuff should have had us at 150+mph by now -- I'm disappointed. I think I'll buy a Supra.
 
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Originally posted by rmrmd1956
Hell, the Yellow Bird did 11.7 at 133.5 in 1987, thats only .4MPH in 18 years! These tuners need to get their act in gear. All the new computer stuff should have had us at 150+mph by now -- I'm disappointed. I think I'll buy a Supra.
Can i pleae buy your car then, pleasee
 
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Originally posted by rmrmd1956
Hell, the Yellow Bird did 11.7 at 133.5 in 1987, thats only .4MPH in 18 years! These tuners need to get their act in gear. All the new computer stuff should have had us at 150+mph by now
Yes, the Yellowbird is incredible. I think it's a combo of low wt and high hp.
I think only 28 were made and I don't know how many that have survived. And they're not all yellow either
I think they are still around 100.000 - 120.000 USD nowadays.
 
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Yes, the Yellowbird is incredible. I think it's a combo of low wt and high hp.
I think only 28 were made and I don't know how many that have survived. And they're not all yellow either
I think they are still around 100.000 - 120.000 USD nowadays.
And they must be a lot more fun than the current 911, with its huge weight.
 
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yeah but dont forget security issues...

but what is really impressive is that those yellowbirds are still driving very well and they are nearly 20years old (1987) and some have more then 100k miles on the clock. this is really impressive. the quality must be outstanding. i dont know one single car of this age from another tuner, which is still driving...
 
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Originally posted by rmrmd1956
Hell, the Yellow Bird did 11.7 at 133.5 in 1987, thats only .4MPH in 18 years! These tuners need to get their act in gear. All the new computer stuff should have had us at 150+mph by now -- I'm disappointed. I think I'll buy a Supra.
I managed an 11,5 in my yellowbird. But i think this RT12 would monster my car

Especially at the higher speeds. This car is so happy above 150mph it is just scary....

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