I think BLKMAGIC did 750whp with cast wheel 18g hybrids, so 900 for the best 20 size is possible I think.

 

750whp is not 900whp tho and thats not on a mustang dyno. It will never happen. Turbos dont flow enough to make that hp. Built or no built motor not going to happen. Also he ran a ton of boost with a pro efi. Plus he is now running bigger turbos.

 

Calm down guys.
I just wanted to know which compressor wheel is good for a non clipped wheel on the hot side. I wont open the engine to get better rods or some stuff. I do not want new injectors. Just a littel more punch.

 

That was on a stock motor. All I was proving there was that it was higher than 717whp you said was the highest. If he would have kept those and retuned with the built motor where he could run more boost and not have to torque limit to save the stock rods anymore, it he'd be right around that 900whp mark.

And again, yes the turbos themselves push enough air to make 900whp, it's the restrictions in the intake and exhaust streams that will limit the power potential.

 

Sorry, I got off track here.


Depends on who you get the wheels from or turbo. I have some 47.5/66/70.7mm extended tip billet wheels for use with the stock k16 turbos. That's what most billet 16g seem to be now days. Just a hair smaller than what a 16g is but flow much more than the old cast 16g wheel design.

 

End of story you will not get 900whp with 20gs. The only thing he was missing was torque he would have never seen 900whp. Your not understanding those turbos will not flow enough air to make that power with those compressor wheels. If you want 900whp you need my turbos or bigger.

 

Again wrong. The compressor wheel flow enough air for more much more than 450 who per turbo. Hell if done it's myself many time on evos and stis making over 500awhp on e85. Yes you're talking a 2.0 and 2.5 motor though. The turbo themselves pushing enough air though, absolutely ZERO question about that.

In due time I will prove it to you as well.

As for the torque on the pineapple express build. That was all torque limited tuning to save the stock rods, no where near the potential of what the turbos can do.

 

Your talking about two different motors and turbos. A 20g will not make 450hp each turbo for a porsche. Try it and lets see the results. Torque limit has nothing to do with hp he maxed out the turbos on a pro efi.

So let me ask you a question? My turbos will possibly make 900whp! How do you think a small 20g will make then same? And my turbos are ball bearing.


Because were twin turbo does not mean both turbos make more hp.

 

You were saying the turbos themselves were not capable of producing that. I completely understand that it's different running 2 on a 911 than a single on an evo.

As for the pineapple express again, not even close to maxing the turbos. Running 26 psi is not maxing out the turbos. They can flow much more pushing 30+psi on a motor with rods and head studs.

Again in due time I will hit that mark. Most likely going to build my motor this winter and will push them to the max after.

Also ball bearing turbos means nothing to hp. amount, only in spool. Wheel flow and turbine and compressor housing ar size controls flow amounts.

 

Dont let these little guys destroy the narrative

https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...-put-test.html

 

Those turbos are not 20gs like the poster above is saying he can hit 900awhp on 20gs. He ran more then 26psi and ball bearing does matter. Your waisting your time on 20gs. Stop talking and lets see you do it.


So this year we want to see you hit 900awhp on 20gs on a mustang dyno. Good luck on that.

 

How do you know what my 20gs are? The hta68 wheel is a 20g size wheel (actually slightly smaller inducer than a 20g) and flow 51lb on their most resent revision. Mine are billet 6+6 20g size with extended tip, extra tall profile and optimal blade design. Flows almost identical to the hta68.

If you're saying ball bearing affects peak flow of a turbo, I'm sorry you know very little about turbos.

Again, in due time we will see.

 

Here are mine.

 

I do know about turbos very much so. If you do then understand that your comparing an evo turbo to a porsche lol. Well for your info i have an evo built too with a 61 trim turbo so i know what turbos make and dont make. We told you above that you will not make 900awhp on 20gs. Markski and others have done tons of turbos. Are you just trying to get a kick out of this? Go ahead and put that wheel in there and watch it fall short by 200awhp. Your just blowing hot air out of that housing.

This thread is about k16 hybrids if you want to start a thread about 20gs please do.

 

A built evo with a 61 trim turbo. 61 trim means nothing without more info, that is simple a inducer vs exducer ratio. Yes comparing an evo to a porsche changes things, I do understand that plain and simple.

Not trying to get kicks at all, simply telling you that you are wrong. Saying I'm going to fall 200 whp short so 700whp. I just showed you on the pe built that they made 750whp not even close to maxing out the turbo. These aren't the old style cast wheels thay fall out of their efficient range at 25 psi and just blow hot air. They are very efficient still in the mid to high 30s.

Sure we can start a 20g thread if ya want. I'll debate turbos all day.