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Old 07-25-2016 | 08:44 AM
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Lol cheers Earl. And I even made it clear that it was on a built high compression motor running ethanol and standalone tuning. Because I know it's on the extreme side but wanted to share. I can appreciate everyone's passion. I won't argue because it will continue forever. Just state my 20+ year facts and keep my lines open. It's not always super cut and dry.
 
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Originally Posted by SamboTT@ByDesign
Lol cheers Earl. And I even made it clear that it was on a built high compression motor running ethanol and standalone tuning. Because I know it's on the extreme side but wanted to share. I can appreciate everyone's passion. I won't argue because it will continue forever. Just state my 20+ year facts and keep my lines open. It's not always super cut and dry.
that made 790whp on your 16/68 which is a fp designed 20g and that was without intercoolers and at only 25psi, imagine if they turned it up to 30. (Yes it wad a 3.8 motor though) They flow a lot.

Sambo I normally don't argue a lot either but on this I will. Thanks for sharing thay one earl, had not seen thay one yet.
 
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Old 07-25-2016 | 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by flewis763
that made 790whp on your 16/68 which is a fp designed 20g and that was without intercoolers and at only 25psi, imagine if they turned it up to 30. (Yes it wad a 3.8 motor though) They flow a lot.

Sambo I normally don't argue a lot either but on this I will. Thanks for sharing thay one earl, had not seen thay one yet.

There setup is something that you will not run probably unless you want to spend high dollar money. Pro efi, high compression motor, e85, 3.8 liter lots of wheel spin. Plus it was not on a mustang dyno which doesnt flame there numbers and those are corrected numbers not uncorrected.

20g will not work and until it does its pointless. I had the 24/71 turbos they made 600plus awhp at 20psi. To get to 900awhp it would not happen. Once we see it then we will all believe it but most of us move on from small turbos to bigger ones. We want more pull uptop.
 

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Originally Posted by 996tt550hp
There setup is something that you will not run probably unless you want to spend high dollar money. Pro efi, high compression motor, e85, 3.8 liter lots of wheel spin. Plus it was not on a mustang dyno which doesnt flame there numbers and those are corrected numbers not uncorrected.

20g will not work and until it does its pointless. I had the 24/71 turbos they made 600plus awhp at 20psi. To get to 900awhp it would not happen. Once we see it then we will all believe it but most of us move on from small turbos to bigger ones. We want more pull uptop.
So now your back pedaling saying it's not possible on a porsche motor but here it is fone, just more expensive to do it. This goes back to what I said earlier about the setup and restrictions through the whole car. Also fuel and ecu. A stock ecu hugely limits you compared to a standalone and you have to run race gas or e85.

600awhp at 20 psi, I'm going to guess on 93 octane and stock ecu.
 
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Originally Posted by flewis763
So now your back pedaling saying it's not possible on a porsche motor but here it is fone, just more expensive to do it. This goes back to what I said earlier about the setup and restrictions through the whole car. Also fuel and ecu. A stock ecu hugely limits you compared to a standalone and you have to run race gas or e85.

600awhp at 20 psi, I'm going to guess on 93 octane and stock ecu.
Race gas. Did you not read my post. Lol corrected numbers not uncorrected and still thats nowhere near 900awhp. That was rear wheel.
 
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Originally Posted by flewis763
So now your back pedaling saying it's not possible on a porsche motor but here it is fone, just more expensive to do it. This goes back to what I said earlier about the setup and restrictions through the whole car. Also fuel and ecu. A stock ecu hugely limits you compared to a standalone and you have to run race gas or e85.

600awhp at 20 psi, I'm going to guess on 93 octane and stock ecu.
My k16s did 599whp and 673wtq on 91oct and 1.25bar (18.4psi) on stock ECU
 
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Originally Posted by pwdrhound
My k16s did 599whp and 673wtq on 91oct and 1.25bar (18.4psi) on stock ECU
Not on stock k16s but 16g Billets yes thats about right for power at that boost. We took my power out so my rods last.
 
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Originally Posted by 996tt550hp
Not on stock k16s but 16g Billets yes thats about right for power at that boost. We took my power out so my rods last.
Not billets. Cast wheel
 
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So what was the size of both compressor and hot side? Plus you had pro efi. That dyno was not on a mustang dyno tho and that was rwd.
 
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Originally Posted by 996tt550hp
Race gas. Did you not read my post. Lol corrected numbers not uncorrected and still thats nowhere near 900awhp. That was rear wheel.
You turn the boost up to make more horsepower, very simple here, not rocket science
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So what was the size of both compressor and hot side? Plus you had pro efi. That dyno was not on a mustang dyno tho and that was rwd.
So only mustang dyno is relevant and only awd? Also he stated stock ecu when that was done.

My cat is rwd so now does that mean whatever my number are it won't count?
 
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Originally Posted by 996tt550hp
So what was the size of both compressor and hot side? Plus you had pro efi. That dyno was not on a mustang dyno tho and that was rwd.
So she stated a k16 cast 16g. Sizes are given.
Comp will be 48.5/68mm
Turbine is 56/49
 
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Also if you only made 600whp at 20psi with race fuel on k24/71, either you have issues with the car or your tune is marginal.
 
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Originally Posted by flewis763
Also if you only made 600whp at 20psi with race fuel on k24/71, either you have issues with the car or your tune is marginal.
will just wait for your turbo build you will be pretty upset when you dont get even close.
 
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Originally Posted by 996tt550hp
will just wait for your turbo build you will be pretty upset when you dont get even close.
You are very illogical. It's been proven multiple time just in the post the potential of them with hard dyno data and you fail to see that apparently.

I'll post up my numbers when mine is done with is on the lowest reading mustang dyno I've ever been on as well.
 
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what is the HP/boost limitations of the stock block? I would imagine a pair of hybrid k16s can meet that. unless the OP is building the block, does it make sense to go with anything larger than a k16hybrid?
 


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