Video: RUF RT12...
#19
01-12-2006, 05:37 AM
Originally posted by Guy
I would just make one comment about your figures Buddy. The RT12 is based on a 3.6 litre 996TT engine and gearbox, that is then converted to 650bhp and fitted to the car. That means for your comparison you would have to buy a 997S, then buy a complete 996TT engine and ancillaries (turbos, intercoolers etc) and gearbox and then tune it. The $50,000 would not even buy a new stock 996TT engine. Then you have to work out how to integrate a 996TT engine, wiring and electronics into a 997........
There's a lot more to the RT12 that it looks at first glance. Unfortunately some press articles have incorrectly stated that the RT12 has a 3.8S based engine or assumed it. As stated, the 530bhp and 560bhp options on the RT12 are 3.6 litres, only the 650 is 3.8. The 3.8S engine is only strong enough for about 450-500bhp.
Oh yes and some of their 996TT engines have GT3 heads on them....
Guy
I would just make one comment about your figures Buddy. The RT12 is based on a 3.6 litre 996TT engine and gearbox, that is then converted to 650bhp and fitted to the car. That means for your comparison you would have to buy a 997S, then buy a complete 996TT engine and ancillaries (turbos, intercoolers etc) and gearbox and then tune it. The $50,000 would not even buy a new stock 996TT engine. Then you have to work out how to integrate a 996TT engine, wiring and electronics into a 997........
There's a lot more to the RT12 that it looks at first glance. Unfortunately some press articles have incorrectly stated that the RT12 has a 3.8S based engine or assumed it. As stated, the 530bhp and 560bhp options on the RT12 are 3.6 litres, only the 650 is 3.8. The 3.8S engine is only strong enough for about 450-500bhp.
Oh yes and some of their 996TT engines have GT3 heads on them....
Guy
To make my idea work it would probably be best to wait for the 997 tt to come out and then send it to a tuner.
#20
01-12-2006, 03:38 PM
Originally posted by FlyingLow
I may be crazy but the RT12 will kick a CGT's *** and the CGT is over $400K. The RT12 is a bonafide supercar with VIN and warranty. I'd take an RT12 anyday.
I may be crazy but the RT12 will kick a CGT's *** and the CGT is over $400K. The RT12 is a bonafide supercar with VIN and warranty. I'd take an RT12 anyday.
#21
02-10-2006, 10:51 PM
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I tend to agree with Budman. I acknowledge the long term resale value the cars seem to have, but they always, when put to the pencil, seem high. 
Great sound though.
Personally, I would give up a 1/2 second and spend the extra 60k to get the cgt. I love that car.
Great sound though.Personally, I would give up a 1/2 second and spend the extra 60k to get the cgt. I love that car.
#23
02-11-2006, 08:00 AM
Originally Posted by FlyingLow
I may be crazy but the RT12 will kick a CGT's *** and the CGT is over $400K. The RT12 is a bonafide supercar with VIN and warranty. I'd take an RT12 anyday.
#24
02-11-2006, 08:25 AM
Originally Posted by buddyg
Yes, you are crazy because the RT12 will definately NOT kick a CGT's ***. It weighs about 300 to 400 lbs more with only 45 extra hp. I believe it would be a fairly even race and the CGT would walk away on a roadcourse.
#25
02-11-2006, 08:40 AM
Originally Posted by Roger
I would not assume this unless you own both and have driven them on a road course yourself. Maybe the RT12 is easier to drive at the limits than the CGT? Torque is a wonderful thing, especially on a tight course where getting off the corners fast is a must. Big difference in TQ figures Buddy. Hp is just a number for comparision........
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02-11-2006, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by buddyg
Thanks for the video! I love that car but as with all RUF products it is way overpriced!
997 S $100,000
Engine Mods 50,000
Suspension Mods 10,000
Wheels 10,000
Interior 10,000
Exterior 20,000
R&D expense/car 25,000
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total $225,000
How much does RUF charge?? OVER $300,000!!!
No thanks.
997 S $100,000
Engine Mods 50,000
Suspension Mods 10,000
Wheels 10,000
Interior 10,000
Exterior 20,000
R&D expense/car 25,000
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total $225,000
How much does RUF charge?? OVER $300,000!!!
No thanks.
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