Stiffer Wastegate Springs?
#31
01-23-2006, 11:59 AM
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Kevins wastegates really rock.... 
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01-23-2006, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Kevin
Gunter you can PM me, I have them in stock..
The Tail springs aren't a bolt in. They aren't designed for the KKK accuators. You have so much coil bind with there springs it just isn't correct.
The Tail springs aren't a bolt in. They aren't designed for the KKK accuators. You have so much coil bind with there springs it just isn't correct.
FWIW they were an easy bolt in for me. Maybe you are confused with another "tail" company.
Look at how flat the boost log is when using these springs. This is from my 993tt with K24 hybrids (not Kevins) and greddy EBC
Last edited by K24madness; 01-23-2006 at 01:16 PM.
#33
01-23-2006, 02:10 PM
Originally Posted by K24madness
Odd statement considering my positive results and the fact that Tial does work for EVO on the various Garrett turbos. They also manufacture some of the best wastegates around.
FWIW they were an easy bolt in for me. Maybe you are confused with another "tail" company.
Look at how flat the boost log is when using these springs. This is from my 993tt with K24 hybrids (not Kevins) and greddy EBC
FWIW they were an easy bolt in for me. Maybe you are confused with another "tail" company.
Look at how flat the boost log is when using these springs. This is from my 993tt with K24 hybrids (not Kevins) and greddy EBC
Question:
1 How did you get that plot?
2 Why does the MAF voltage max out even as you keep accelerating and using more air? If the MAF is undersized, you must revert to the stored ECU values for timing and injector pulse width based on RPM and Load correct? Would it not be better to get a larger MAF that reads your airflow accurately up to the max, for more adjustability? Perhaps WOT doesn't require a lot of 'tweeking' to get maximum safe power?
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01-23-2006, 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Kevin
Tial isn't making a wastegate for the K16 or K24.. You have to purchase one of there springs frrom there list of application for there own wastegates. Tial does make good wastegates such as the one on my 930 and 965.. It makes more sense to purchase a kit made for the KKK actuators.
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01-23-2006, 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Kevin
They were made for the Garrett cartridge conversions that were installed in KKK housings. Similar to the Evo conversions.
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#38
01-23-2006, 05:54 PM
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I have both.. a tial 44 mm on gt 35r garrett ball bearing turbo( evo8).. as well as Kevins billet wastegate on my stage 5 zero clearance(TT)... both are great and do the job. Huge difference in spool up and sustained boost.. doesnt drop off like the stock wastegate under full load.
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01-23-2006, 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by MARKSKI
I have both.. a tial 44 mm on gt 35r garrett ball bearing turbo( evo8).. as well as Kevins billet wastegate on my stage 5 zero clearance(TT)... both are great and do the job. Huge difference in spool up and sustained boost.. doesnt drop off like the stock wastegate under full load.
What are you replacing your stage 5 turbos with? With all of the success of the garretts I have to guess thats your plan. If so you will not be disapointed.
Tom
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01-23-2006, 07:07 PM
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Yes Im going to a set of gt35rs and 44 mm wastegates with .8 bar springs.... all custom piping I/cs.... headers, exhaust.. etc.. and much more....
I must really say that Kevins stage 5 zero clearance turbos are the ****....I had k24s race FVD turbos and they were a dog.... too much lag... i didnt hit full boost til top of the 3rd or 4rth gear... stage 5s are awesome... simply no lag... seriously.... it was the best set up I had without having to get into the engine and or add injectors/fuel pumps.
I must really say that Kevins stage 5 zero clearance turbos are the ****....I had k24s race FVD turbos and they were a dog.... too much lag... i didnt hit full boost til top of the 3rd or 4rth gear... stage 5s are awesome... simply no lag... seriously.... it was the best set up I had without having to get into the engine and or add injectors/fuel pumps.
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2001 996TT 3.6L and stock ECU
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160 mph @ 9.77 seconds in 1/4 mile click to view
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2001 996TT 3.6L and stock ECU
9.66 seconds @ 147.76 mph 1/4 mile click to view
160 mph @ 9.77 seconds in 1/4 mile click to view
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01-23-2006, 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by MARKSKI
Yes Im going to a set of gt35rs and 44 mm wastegates with .8 bar springs.... all custom piping I/cs.... headers, exhaust.. etc.. and much more....
I must really say that Kevins stage 5 zero clearance turbos are the ****....I had k24s race FVD turbos and they were a dog.... too much lag... i didnt hit full boost til top of the 3rd or 4rth gear... stage 5s are awesome... simply no lag... seriously.... it was the best set up I had without having to get into the engine and or add injectors/fuel pumps.
I must really say that Kevins stage 5 zero clearance turbos are the ****....I had k24s race FVD turbos and they were a dog.... too much lag... i didnt hit full boost til top of the 3rd or 4rth gear... stage 5s are awesome... simply no lag... seriously.... it was the best set up I had without having to get into the engine and or add injectors/fuel pumps.
Those FVD turbos sound pretty sad. Here is a 1-3 gear log of my home brew K24 hybrids. I hit full boost in first gear with my 993tt.
Last edited by K24madness; 01-23-2006 at 07:20 PM.
#43
01-23-2006, 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by K24madness
Sounds like you have a monster plannned. I have seen SCARGO install many such setups. You will not be disappointed!!! Sounds like you are doing the external wastegates. Very good move. I have only seen one set of custom IC's for the 996. It is on Chads car. I must say they are impressive. This is an area often overlooked. When will it be done? Which injectors are you going to use? I can recommend some.
Those FVD turbos sound pretty sad. Here is a 1-3 gear log of my home brew K24 hybrids. I hit full boost in first gear with my 993tt.
Those FVD turbos sound pretty sad. Here is a 1-3 gear log of my home brew K24 hybrids. I hit full boost in first gear with my 993tt.
and the stiffer spring turns this into a whole different car.
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2001 996TT 3.6L and stock ECU
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160 mph @ 9.77 seconds in 1/4 mile click to view
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160 mph @ 9.77 seconds in 1/4 mile click to view
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#44
01-23-2006, 08:18 PM
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here is a pic of my new I/Cs
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2001 996TT 3.6L and stock ECU
9.66 seconds @ 147.76 mph 1/4 mile click to view
160 mph @ 9.77 seconds in 1/4 mile click to view
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2001 996TT 3.6L and stock ECU
9.66 seconds @ 147.76 mph 1/4 mile click to view
160 mph @ 9.77 seconds in 1/4 mile click to view
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