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Old 01-28-2006 | 07:29 AM
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How hard is this to understand? BOTH cars trap in the 116mph area in the 1/4 mile bone stock. I have an exhaust mod, he was running an intake. If you honestly believe that he was in the wrong gear, the outcome would have been MUCH worse than it was. The runs were rather close, considering. We even ran from a few different mph just to make sure. No change in the outcome. Perhaps a few mph difference between the two cars. I'm sorry that you don't believe in the results, but the facts don't lie. I expected better from this forum in all honesty, especially since the cars are so close bone stock.

I am sure you do. I'm just saying a new driver in a GT3 is not as fast as an experienced GT3 driver.......Ask me how I know


Its obvious in the second two runs, he was in the wrong gear. Its tough with an 8200 redline to get that right at first


First time I ran against a stock TT.....It was embarrasing...I got toasted......since, stock TTs while close, can't hang
 
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Old 01-28-2006 | 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by LUVMYGT3
Sorry my misunderstanding..I thought you guys were on you way back from a porsche parade.my apoligies.
We were, but he was also a driver as well. While we didn't come from an official track event, I spoke with the driver and he had completed many DE events. Ari made the right assumption.
 

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Old 01-28-2006 | 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Rolo
I am sure you do. I'm just saying a new driver in a GT3 is not as fast as an experienced GT3 driver.......Ask me how I know


Its obvious in the second two runs, he was in the wrong gear. Its tough with an 8200 redline to get that right at first


First time I ran against a stock TT.....It was embarrasing...I got toasted......since, stock TTs while close, can't hang
In the wrong gear? He got the jump on me in the first one which is why he pulled ahead. I was lazy on the first pull. It happens. Never the less, you can see that my car's torque quickly made up the difference in the first run. I still fail to see how it is not clear that my turbo was faster.

Let's look at things for a second:
- Bone stock, each car (when healthy w/o leaking diverter valves - a SERIOUS issue for stock TT's, even after something as low a 10k where mine failed) runs in the 115-116mph trap area in the 1/4 mile with good drivers; that we know to be fact. We are talking pure, straight-line acceleration.
- He had an intake and one passenger (+7-10hp)
- I had an exhaust and one passenger (+30hp, if not more)
- Logic would stand to reason that if he only had a 10hp gain, max, that my hp gain would put me ahead.

Granted, I am just playing the numbers. However, all the races seem to prove the fact of what I have just listed above. Racing in a straight line is not difficult. It's also not difficult to put it in the correct gear and trust me, you would KNOW if it was in the wrong gear (with both cars being as close as they are) as he would have QUICKLY fallen behind.

There is really nothing left to be discussed and frankly, I am disappointed in your assumptions. For some reason you cannot admit that very lightly modded turbo walked a lightly modded GT3 while the facts and factory specs would agree with what happened.
 

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Old 01-28-2006 | 08:34 AM
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In the wrong gear? He got the jump on me in the first one which is why he pulled ahead. I was lazy on the first pull. It happens. Never the less, you can see that my car's torque quickly made up the difference in the first run. I still fail to see how it is not clear that my turbo was faster.

Let's look at things for a second:
- Bone stock, each car (when healthy w/o leaking diverter valves - a SERIOUS issue for stock TT's, even after something as low a 10k where mine failed) runs in the 115-116mph trap area in the 1/4 mile with good drivers; that we know to be fact. We are talking pure, straight-line acceleration.
- He had an intake and one passenger (+7-10hp)
- I had an exhaust and one passenger (+30hp, if not more)
- Logic would stand to reason that if he only had a 10hp gain, max, that my hp gain would put me ahead.

Granted, I am just playing the numbers. However, all the races seem to prove the fact of what I have just listed above. Racing in a straight line is not difficult. It's also not difficult to put it in the correct gear and trust me, you would KNOW if it was in the wrong gear (with both cars being as close as they are) as he would have QUICKLY fallen behind.

There is really nothing left to be discussed and frankly, I am disappointed in your assumptions. For some reason you cannot admit that very lightly modded turbo walked a lightly modded GT3 while the facts and factory specs would agree with what happened.

Don't be disappointed, we are both just talking about our real world experiences that happen to be very different.

Its like another post where Silver's PSI car was dead even with a new z06......lots of people said it was impossible and something must have been wrong. It wasn't, I was there.


I think Silver will tell you my GT3 is very fast. Maybe I just have a good one????? I don't know, or maybe the TT pilots I've gone against aren't very good. But I know Silver and Hasaratti are pretty good, now thats not a good comparrison cause they both have 500hp TTs and are much faster than I am. But I don't get dropped like that third video.
 
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Old 01-28-2006 | 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Rolo
But I know Silver and Hasaratti are pretty good, now thats not a good comparrison cause they both have 500hp TTs and are much faster than I am. But I don't get dropped like that third video.
Maybe he backed off after I pulled a car or so? That is always a possibility and truthfully, probably the best one. The true race that showed the difference in power would be the first one in my opinion. To have someone get a jump on you, to stop their pull, and to reel them in pretty much says it all.

I agree that anything can happen in a race such as that, but that is why I made three pulls: to eliminate doubt and to give as much evidence as possible as to the outcomes.
 
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Old 01-28-2006 | 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by aj996tt
No, you aren't missing anything
Yea, if you're an old guy and need cush,and enjoy parking outside of coffee shops leaning against your car na .....you're not missing anything.
 
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Old 01-28-2006 | 02:16 PM
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When it comes to comparing the TT and GT3, it's all up to the driver who will win.
 
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Old 01-28-2006 | 09:46 PM
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rolo u are an idiot

the gt3 was not in the wrong gear
 
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Old 01-28-2006 | 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Benjamin Choi
rolo u are an idiot

the gt3 was not in the wrong gear

Bit on the emotional side aren't ya?
 
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Bit on the emotional side aren't ya?
Its just funny that everyone will make such an excuse even if they are wrong trying to defend what they own
 
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Old 01-28-2006 | 11:06 PM
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Its just funny that everyone will make such an excuse even if they are wrong trying to defend what they own

Oh, it was humor??? Ok, well you need to work on your delivery
 
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Old 01-28-2006 | 11:11 PM
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Oh, it was humor??? Ok, well you need to work on your delivery
Hahahah
 
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