Markski - what are you going to be using for end tanks on those beasts?

 

here is a sneak peak.. but I dont want to steal the original thread.... Craig will do these as well..and Im sure they will be very nicely done. I had 3 days to do them.... but all in all Im happy.

 

I understand that you want the bigger coolers for more airflow, but why go so thick? The second half of the thickness will do so much less cooling than the front half. Basically you are just moving the heat soaked portion back farther from the cooler air. I hope there is a plan to datalog air temps before and after the cooler to compare to the same datalogging done with the gt2 coolers.

 

these are 4.5 inches thick.... I was adviced by Todd t protomotive that these will be a good choice.. Yes I could have gone with 3.5 inches thick....but Im going to be running 2 garrett gt 35r ball bearing turbos... I need to improve the efficiency of my cooling... the intercooler is just a small part of the whole system that Im doing... ie. 850 rwhp
I have a 10 second Evo 8 tahst also runs a single gtr35r.. and that Intercooler is 28 inches long.. 8 inches wide.... and 4 inches thick.... and its the best thing I could have done to it....

 

Mark,

The major difference between your EVO and 996 intercoolers in the air in front of the EVO will be higher pressure forceing it throught the core. With the inlets of the 996 the pressure created will not be as high.

Not sure how the extra thickness will impead flow through the core. As with all things new, the results will speak for themself.

 

I agree... Todd uses a 3.5 core but a bit wider.... and yet does this on his high HP cars... Yes , we are dealing with ambient air.... its not in front like on my evo8... but he believes they will be fine....

 

I would think with all the money involved, that those who are selling the product would have some numbers to back up what they believe. Where are the efficiency numbers for these IC cores? I find this very hard to believe that the manufacturer doesn't have any profile numbers. Has anyone requested these numbers?

I have been in this game to long to install anyone else's product without seeing some honest numbers. Yes, without the numbers I am a "Doubting Thomas." Just been burnt too many times before. These cores do look very nice ......... but do they function better?

 

Chad.. no one is selling these to the public... I made them for myself...
After consulting Todd @protomotive... I decided to go with that core size....
and yes the end tanks could have been better "looking".. but had a deadline to finish the product up.... b4 my car gets shipped out.... the guy who build the end tanks builds Ics for cars that do 9s and 10s 1/4 mile... and they r street cars... I think he knows what hes doing....
mark

 

MARKSKI,

I understand what is occuring now. You are prototyping and bravely going where others have not gone before. I have done the same, sometimes it is successful and sometimes it isn't. Please let us know what the delta and efficiency is when the final product has been tested.

By the way, I really hope it is a success.

 

Im sure ill get some figures and post
Craig will do his and probably have figure b4 me....

 

Thicker doesn't mean better, it all depends on the power you're running, simple equations regarding airflow and air velocity!
If a core is too large air will get lost in it, think about a 1 gallon and a 5 galon tank with two pipes attached next to each other, take a deep breath and blow into one pipe, do the same with the other tank and feel the difference of airflow and pressure comming out of the other pipe!
In the Belcar (Belgian GT series) there's a team that used to go with Secan but not anymore, the intercoolers they use now (Blizzard Intercoolers) give them a 11°C maximum increase over ambient temperature during the race (this is not at the end of the straight but the highest rise in temperature over the entire track!!) car runs 700hp at 0.9bar of boost (this also determines the internals of the core!)
Too bad that they don't sell to end users but only work with serious tuners or racing teams. For the US Titan Motorsport is expecting a street version of the intercoolers.

greetz mando

 

Hey Chad-
Can you comment on the above statement/analogy of a 1 gallon vs 5 gallon tanks and a breath of air?

If you don't compress the air aren't you moving the same volume no matter what size the "container" is?

I don't know one way or another, just asking...

 

Mando,

Been working on that post for 3 years now, huh

So whattya think about the stock market hitting 1400, think it will hit 1500?

 

Lol....

 

just new to the forum and as it is intercooler related it got my intrest indeed I didn't look at the date of the last post before mine

greetz mando

to be honest the course it took to be able to make the reply just got finished