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Old 03-27-2006 | 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by PorscheC4
I MOST CERTAINLY AGREE WITH U. I COULDNT AGREE MORE. the z06 was not even close to a stock setup. definately a tuned suspension and drags, probably more. i also heard that they are very unstable or shaky when the speed gets higher. the turbo is gonna be sick on the ring. anyone see that walter ran a 7.28 in the carrera gt making its margin greater over other cars.
Just curious, i've read the article, no where did it mention the car was not stock and was "heavily modified". What article are you reading that the rest of us are not? Also, why would they use "drags" on the ring?


I know an owner who has had his new Z06 at speed, says it's perfectly stable, keep in mind, he also owns a turbo so he's not trying to sway from one side to the other.

And still waiting to see the 490 whp dyno you say the Z06 is putting down. You keep yapping but when people call you out on stuff you don't seem to answer
 
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Old 03-27-2006 | 08:36 PM
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Just curious, i've read the article, no where did it mention the car was not stock and was "heavily modified". What article are you reading that the rest of us are not? Also, why would they use "drags" on the ring?


I know an owner who has had his new Z06 at speed, says it's perfectly stable, keep in mind, he also owns a turbo so he's not trying to sway from one side to the other.

And still waiting to see the 490 whp dyno you say the Z06 is putting down. You keep yapping but when people call you out on stuff you don't seem to answer
Well, the 490 whp thing was something I had seen on a forum a while ago on the autbahn forums.
As far as 'heavily modded' thats not what i meant. let me clarify. i meant that the suspension was modded and that it had drags. drags would be better because youre gonna have better grip. how is that even a question? other than that i didnt say it had exhaust, heards, mids, cats, etc, so dont put words in my mouth. i dont know if this is what u meant but it certainly seemed like it. i only meant suspension and radials.
 
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Old 03-27-2006 | 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by PorscheC4
Well, the 490 whp thing was something I had seen on a forum a while ago on the autbahn forums.
As far as 'heavily modded' thats not what i meant. let me clarify. i meant that the suspension was modded and that it had drags. drags would be better because youre gonna have better grip. how is that even a question? other than that i didnt say it had exhaust, heards, mids, cats, etc, so dont put words in my mouth. i dont know if this is what u meant but it certainly seemed like it. i only meant suspension and radials.
Dude, "drags" would be as good as swampbuggy tires in the ring. It would stick good with some slicks or DOT track tires.
They do have better grip in the 1/4, but not on this 8min road course.
 
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Old 03-27-2006 | 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by PorscheC4
Well, the 490 whp thing was something I had seen on a forum a while ago on the autbahn forums.
As far as 'heavily modded' thats not what i meant. let me clarify. i meant that the suspension was modded and that it had drags. drags would be better because youre gonna have better grip. how is that even a question? other than that i didnt say it had exhaust, heards, mids, cats, etc, so dont put words in my mouth. i dont know if this is what u meant but it certainly seemed like it. i only meant suspension and radials.
I still haven't seen a report that said the suspension was actually modded, all i've seen are reports that said the Z's suspension was fine tuned on the ring, which porsche does as well, along w/ many other manufacturers since it's a great track w/ many variables that many race tracks and street drivers will see.

And again, don't know why they'd use "drag radials" on a race track, maybe R-compound tires, but you don't see those on the drag strip. And again, no one has seen or proven that the car was using "special" tires. I'm just curious if you have, because that'd be news for 100% of the population. You make it sound like you have information the rest of the public doesn't.

I'd love to see the autobahn thread where you saw 490 stock. As mentioned before, that was the car w/ just long tubes. The cars are laying down 430-450 rwhp stock, the same GT2 owners on this board have seen. Which btw, is rated at 30HP less then the Z06
 
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Old 03-27-2006 | 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by BBGT2
Well said.

Bottom line is a vette is a vette and a Porsche will always be a Porsche.
I dont think the vette was stock when it ran the ring, it's suspension was dittled with and there was "talk" of not regular street tires.
Either way does it really matter to Porsche lovers, no. At least not to me, I would rather look into my garage and see my GT2 than a vette anyday no matter how well it performs. And I really would like to see a modded vette take on Craigs monster or Markski's beast when its done.

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I don't think anyone would rather see a z06 in the garage then a GT2. W/ that said though, there are more then a few guys on this board that have had GT2's and other Turbos (some still have them), that rave about their Z06's. But I highly doubt any of them would replace their P-cars w/ a Z, but add the Z to their collection.
 
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Originally Posted by HotRodGuy
there are more then a few guys on this board that have had GT2's and other Turbos (some still have them), that rave about their Z06's.
Some of these Z06's have been or are for sale, No?
 
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Old 03-27-2006 | 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by LUIS95993
Some of these Z06's have been or are for sale, No?
Watt's is, but we all knew he wasn't going to hold on to it for long. Regardless, i haven't heard any of them say anything bad about there car and most seemed to be completely satisfied w/ the cars performance. But as watt mentioned himself, he kept it longer then most of his cars, and even said what he thought about it compared to the GT2's he's owned

https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...ad.php?t=43830


There are also a # of turbo owners w/ Z06's on the vette board who also seem to be completely satisfied w/ their additions. But comment that the cars drive completely different, which isn't suprising going from a Rear engine RWD/AWD car to a front/mid engine RWD car. Basically have to learn how to drive all over again

But as mentioned, you still have to give a bunch of respect to it for bringing what it brings to the table w/ a 65K price tag. But also have to realize that there is a reason the GT2, etc have a higher price tag, whether slower or not.
 

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Originally Posted by HotRodGuy
Watt's is, but we all knew he wasn't going to hold on to it for long. Regardless, i haven't heard any of them say anything bad about there car and most seemed to be completely satisfied w/ the cars performance. But as watt mentioned himself, he kept it longer then most of his cars, and even said what he thought about it compared to the GT2's he's owned

https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...ad.php?t=43830


There are also a # of turbo owners w/ Z06's on the vette board who also seem to be completely satisfied w/ their additions. But comment that the cars drive completely different, which isn't suprising going from a Rear engine RWD/AWD car to a front/mid engine RWD car. Basically have to learn how to drive all over again

But as mentioned, you still have to give a bunch of respect to it for bringing what it brings to the table w/ a 65K price tag. But also have to realize that there is a reason the GT2, etc have a higher price tag, whether slower or not.
I have nothing but respect for the Z06. It is one of the best bangs for the buck out there, it is just not a Porsche.
 
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Originally Posted by LUIS95993
I have nothing but respect for the Z06. It is one of the best bangs for the buck out there, it is just not a Porsche.
well obviously, but w/ that said, have you driven one yet? And if you have, have you had a chance to wring it out? I'm curious what your opinion was.
 
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Originally Posted by HotRodGuy
well obviously, but w/ that said, have you driven one yet? And if you have, have you had a chance to wring it out? I'm curious what your opinion was.
I have not, I have driven a regular C6 and I though that was pretty impressive. I cannot imagine what the ZO6 would be like.
 
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Originally Posted by LUIS95993
I have not, I have driven a regular C6 and I though that was pretty impressive. I cannot imagine what the ZO6 would be like.

well then how do you know it's not porsche like Z06 and C6 are completely different beasts, the suspension geometry alone is pretty different.
 
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well then how do you know it's not porsche like Z06 and C6 are completely different beasts, the suspension geometry alone is pretty different.
Because I have driven enough 911's to know what "porsche like" is.
I am sure the Z06 is to the C6 what the GT2 is to the 996 Turbo, I have driven 3/4 of the cars listed in this post so I think I have a pretty good idea. Like I said, I was impressed with the C6, I am sure the Z06 is way more impressive!
 
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you're not gonna make people like Z06s over 996TTs esp. 997TTs... it's the same reason people choose 997 and 997S over a regular C6.. why would it be different at the next level.. 997TT vs C6Z06 ?
 
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This thread should be renamed Z06 ENVY!
 
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This thread should be renamed Z06 ENVY!
Respect, but definitely no envy whatsoever of the new Z06.

In fact, I thoroughly enjoyed burying the two C6Z I have encountered, so far.
 


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