996 Turbo / GT2 Turbo discussion on previous model 2000-2005 Porsche 911 Twin Turbo and 911 GT2.

RT12 vs 06 ZO6

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Rate Thread
 
  #1  
Old 03-30-2006, 01:25 PM
awsum1ed's Avatar
Registered User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Orange County, CA
Posts: 180
Rep Power: 27
awsum1ed is infamous around these parts
RT12 vs 06 ZO6

Just curious? what will be the results? I didn't see any thread on this yet..
 
  #2  
Old 03-30-2006, 01:30 PM
crazy1323's Avatar
Banned
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Memphis, TN
Posts: 778
Rep Power: 0
crazy1323 is infamous around these parts
i think that the RT12 could take the Z06 in a striaght line from a dig if it is the 4wd version it might start falling behind as speeds increase and traction is no longer an issue. Also, in cornering i think that the advantage might have to go the Z06. IN "bad-***" factor i would say that the RT12 wins by a long shot.
 
  #3  
Old 03-30-2006, 01:31 PM
Ruiner's Avatar
Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 1,321
Rep Power: 71
Ruiner is infamous around these parts
There are three different engines available for Porsche RUF RT12. Actually all three versions have the very same engine but some modifications gives different power output: 530 HP, 560 HP and 650 HP. You can also get RWD or AWD versions of these models.

The 560 and 650hp versions would eat up a C6 Z06. The 530hp version would be a lot closer given that the Z06's hp seems to be under rated.
 
  #4  
Old 03-30-2006, 01:41 PM
WOODTSTER's Avatar
Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: MPLS, MN USA
Age: 63
Posts: 5,710
Rep Power: 464
WOODTSTER Is a GOD !WOODTSTER Is a GOD !WOODTSTER Is a GOD !WOODTSTER Is a GOD !WOODTSTER Is a GOD !WOODTSTER Is a GOD !WOODTSTER Is a GOD !WOODTSTER Is a GOD !WOODTSTER Is a GOD !WOODTSTER Is a GOD !WOODTSTER Is a GOD !
I concur with Ruiner,

takes a good (HONEST 560+) to beat the Z06 due
to weight disadvantage.
Z06 is an amazing car--wow what performance and "reasonable
quality" for a good price. And yes the interior is lame...

Marty K
 

Last edited by WOODTSTER; 03-30-2006 at 01:50 PM.
  #5  
Old 03-30-2006, 01:43 PM
JamE55's Avatar
Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 529
Rep Power: 43
JamE55 is infamous around these parts
Originally Posted by Ruiner
Actually all three versions have the very same engine but some modifications gives different power output: 530 HP, 560 HP and 650 HP.
Sorry but don't you mean 530HP, 590HP and 650HP? In any case i'd take the 650HP anytime!
 
  #6  
Old 03-30-2006, 02:21 PM
03-turbo911's Avatar
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Bahrain
Posts: 4,992
Rep Power: 228
03-turbo911 is a splendid one to behold03-turbo911 is a splendid one to behold03-turbo911 is a splendid one to behold03-turbo911 is a splendid one to behold03-turbo911 is a splendid one to behold03-turbo911 is a splendid one to behold03-turbo911 is a splendid one to behold
Originally Posted by JamE55
Sorry but don't you mean 530HP, 590HP and 650HP? In any case i'd take the 650HP anytime!
It's 530HP,560HP and 650HP as ruiner has said.
 
  #7  
Old 03-30-2006, 02:29 PM
Erik's Avatar
Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Europe/USA
Posts: 1,987
Rep Power: 101
Erik has a spectacular aura aboutErik has a spectacular aura about
Talking Ruf Rt12

I am reading out of the RUF catalogue.

The Rt12 comes with 530, 560 and 650 hp.

And the RUF website says the same thing.
http://www.ruf-automobile.de/content...ahr=&details=1

I have driven the Rt12 650 hp.
I was there when Road & Track tested it.

They did 0-100 km/h in 3.15 secs and 0-200 km/h in 9.7 seconds.
Qrtr mile in 11.0 @ 216 km/h. V Max > 350 km/h

Pirelli P Zero Rosso street tires.
Front: 255/35/ZR19 Rear: 305/30/ZR19


The Z06 is an impressive car. However in a straigh line it has NO chance.

0-100 km/h = 4,0 sec., 0-200 km/h = 12,0 seconds, V Max = 320 km/h

But the Z06 can turn, unless they cheated with the tires

HOCKENHEIM KLEINER KURS:

Corvette Z06: 1.11,5 min
Pagani Zonda S: 1.11,8 min
Lamborghini Gallardo: 1.11,8 min
Porsche 996 GT3 RS: 1.11,8 min
Lamborgini Murcielago: 1.12,0 min
Mercedes CLK DTM AMG: 1.12,5 min
Porsche 996 GT2: 1.12,6 min
Porsche 996 GT3 Mk II: 1.13,2 min
BMW M3 CSL: 1.13,5 min
Mercedes McLaren SLR: 1.13,5 min
Dodge Viper SRT-10: 1.14,3 min


Rt12 story 1
http://www.rs6.com/forum/showthread....highlight=rt12

Rt12 story 2 (or how fast is it?)
http://www.rs6.com/forum/showthread....highlight=rt12
 
  #8  
Old 03-30-2006, 03:19 PM
SCvet00's Avatar
Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 1,040
Rep Power: 130
SCvet00 Is a GOD !SCvet00 Is a GOD !SCvet00 Is a GOD !SCvet00 Is a GOD !SCvet00 Is a GOD !SCvet00 Is a GOD !SCvet00 Is a GOD !SCvet00 Is a GOD !SCvet00 Is a GOD !SCvet00 Is a GOD !SCvet00 Is a GOD !
Originally Posted by Ruiner
There are three different engines available for Porsche RUF RT12. Actually all three versions have the very same engine but some modifications gives different power output: 530 HP, 560 HP and 650 HP. You can also get RWD or AWD versions of these models.

The 560 and 650hp versions would eat up a C6 Z06. The 530hp version would be a lot closer given that the Z06's hp seems to be under rated.
i don't think think the 560 bhp version would "eat up" a Z06, at all. I think it would be failry close, actually. Some Z06's have dynoed 470-480 rwhp bone stock.

They trap at 126-127 mph bone stock, too. What can a RT12 w/ 560 bhp trap? 0-100? 150?
 
  #9  
Old 03-30-2006, 03:38 PM
Erik's Avatar
Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Europe/USA
Posts: 1,987
Rep Power: 101
Erik has a spectacular aura aboutErik has a spectacular aura about
According to RUF the 530 hp will do 0-100 km/h in 3,7 secs. (0-62 mph)
The 560 hp does it in 3,6 secs.
Always hard to guess without more facts, but the RUF would probably win but not by much. 650 hp - another story!

The old RUF R Turbo 520 hp trapped 11.9 secs @ 122.7 mph
0-60 in 3.8 secs.
 
  #10  
Old 03-30-2006, 03:43 PM
Marc's Avatar
Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Miami
Posts: 5,005
Rep Power: 225
Marc is just really niceMarc is just really niceMarc is just really niceMarc is just really niceMarc is just really nice
RUF RUF RUF- the bigger bark has the bite...the ZO6 has no chance against stg II and III engines so to speak!
 
  #11  
Old 03-30-2006, 04:18 PM
HotRodGuy's Avatar
Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Walnut Creek, CA
Age: 42
Posts: 12,874
Rep Power: 579
HotRodGuy Is a GOD !HotRodGuy Is a GOD !HotRodGuy Is a GOD !HotRodGuy Is a GOD !HotRodGuy Is a GOD !HotRodGuy Is a GOD !HotRodGuy Is a GOD !HotRodGuy Is a GOD !HotRodGuy Is a GOD !HotRodGuy Is a GOD !HotRodGuy Is a GOD !
check out this cam'd and long tube Z06 Dyno

543 whp 508 lb ft

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...1&forum_id=100
 
  #12  
Old 03-30-2006, 04:50 PM
WOODTSTER's Avatar
Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: MPLS, MN USA
Age: 63
Posts: 5,710
Rep Power: 464
WOODTSTER Is a GOD !WOODTSTER Is a GOD !WOODTSTER Is a GOD !WOODTSTER Is a GOD !WOODTSTER Is a GOD !WOODTSTER Is a GOD !WOODTSTER Is a GOD !WOODTSTER Is a GOD !WOODTSTER Is a GOD !WOODTSTER Is a GOD !WOODTSTER Is a GOD !
What kind of Dyno is Mr. Lou Gigliotti Running and
what was his baseline?

Didnt Ole Lou used to race Mustangs (and sell high perf parts for stangs?)
MK
 
  #13  
Old 03-30-2006, 05:17 PM
Craig's Avatar
Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Missing in action
Posts: 2,803
Rep Power: 213
Craig Is a GOD !Craig Is a GOD !Craig Is a GOD !Craig Is a GOD !Craig Is a GOD !Craig Is a GOD !Craig Is a GOD !Craig Is a GOD !Craig Is a GOD !Craig Is a GOD !Craig Is a GOD !
The following is merely an observation, devoid of malice, and not intended to disparage anyone. The Porsche community appears to be giving a considerable amount of attention to the C6 ZO6, citing the ZO6 as a benchmark for comparison, and opining as to how certain Porsches would fair against the ZO6. More so than other new cars. Nothing wrong with such discussions, and I am among the those who are genuinely impressed with the C6 ZO6. Nevertheless, I question whether there are subconscious motives/reasons underlying the considerable attention paid to the C6 ZO6 by this community. I am not qualified to answer this question and I will not speculate as to what is going on below the surface, but the heightened attention is palpable.

Craig
 

Last edited by Craig; 03-30-2006 at 05:38 PM.
  #14  
Old 03-30-2006, 06:42 PM
PorscheC4's Avatar
Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: CT
Posts: 6,245
Rep Power: 287
PorscheC4 has a brilliant futurePorscheC4 has a brilliant futurePorscheC4 has a brilliant futurePorscheC4 has a brilliant futurePorscheC4 has a brilliant futurePorscheC4 has a brilliant futurePorscheC4 has a brilliant futurePorscheC4 has a brilliant futurePorscheC4 has a brilliant futurePorscheC4 has a brilliant futurePorscheC4 has a brilliant future
Originally Posted by Erik
According to RUF the 530 hp will do 0-100 km/h in 3,7 secs. (0-62 mph)
The 560 hp does it in 3,6 secs.
Always hard to guess without more facts, but the RUF would probably win but not by much. 650 hp - another story!

The old RUF R Turbo 520 hp trapped 11.9 secs @ 122.7 mph
0-60 in 3.8 secs.
I am totally with u on this man. Any of the RUF RT12's would eat a z06 and spit it out. U have to remember the R TURBO is based on a 996 TURBO, the RT12 is based on a Carrera S which has better drag coefficient and is about 300 lbs lighter. Also, the test on the 11.0@134 was I believe with AWD. The RWD will probably run like 10.8-10.9 @136 or 137. So all the RT 12's will DOMINATE, CRUSH, and ABSOLUTELY EMBARRASS a z06, not to get to from a roll but those turbos on the RT12 will OBLITERATE it.
 
  #15  
Old 03-30-2006, 07:04 PM
Ruiner's Avatar
Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 1,321
Rep Power: 71
Ruiner is infamous around these parts
Originally Posted by SCvet00
i don't think think the 560 bhp version would "eat up" a Z06, at all. I think it would be failry close, actually. Some Z06's have dynoed 470-480 rwhp bone stock.

They trap at 126-127 mph bone stock, too. What can a RT12 w/ 560 bhp trap? 0-100? 150?
The highest I have seen bone stock is 455rwhp, actually. Show me a dyno of a bone stock Z06 doing 470-480 rwhp and I will change my statement.
 


You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 0 votes,  average.

Quick Reply: RT12 vs 06 ZO6



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 04:40 AM.