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Anyone with Tuned cars feel spoiled? I did after driving Stock TT

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Old 12-19-2003 | 11:24 AM
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Talking Anyone with Tuned cars feel spoiled? I did after driving Stock TT

I wanted to share something that to me blows my mind.

Yesterday I test drove Luting_Chen's Yellow TechArt and was very impressed with his Ruf Suspension. However something was different to me?

We went on highway 280 for a little test drive. Here comes the interesting part. I would press on the throttle and the car wouldn't move? What's this I said? I knew what it was, I was soo used to all the power/torque in my EVO 4Gt that his car felt like it had no power.

WOW, I don't think I could have ever imagined saying that a Porsche Twin Turbo would be slow!

So I thank you Todd at EVO and GIAC for giving me a car I just love.

And for those who have tuned their cars with more HP/TQ I strongly suggest you get in a Stock TT and drive it. After your drive you will come to appreciate your car that much more.

 
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Old 12-19-2003 | 11:45 AM
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Funny you should mention this....

After getting my stage IV a few weeks ago... I started with 101 octane fuel and ran the race program... then, at half a tank I filled up with 91 and ran the standard stage IV program... then, just this morning I filled up completely with 91 octane and am running the stock program (testing all the chipswitch settings just to make sure everything is working properly).

DAMN!

What a difference. Stock used to feel SOOOOOO fast. Now it is... um... well...

Did somebody put a volkswagen 1600cc motor in my Porsche?

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There is just NO overstating the change in performance in the stage IV over stock... it is absolutely incredible.

All I can say is; best single modification I've ever done to ANY vehicle I've ever owned.... and I've owned and modified a BUNCH of vehicles.

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Old 12-19-2003 | 11:57 AM
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Doesn't a big mod like Stage 4 void your warranty? ECU reprogramming is not detectable by the dealer, but new headers, exhaust, turbochargers etc, and a program switch are pretty obvious to the dealer, are they not? Do the techs just turn the other way and work on the car under warranty anyway?
 
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Old 12-19-2003 | 12:10 PM
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actually, if you start with an X50 like me, then with stage 4 you have stock turbos I did not change my headers yet either and an exhaust does not void your warranty unless your dealer is one **** ****...It all depends on your dealership and your relationship with your service manager end of the day...
 
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Old 12-19-2003 | 12:27 PM
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Since I can't (still) get Todd at EVO to answer my PM or email, I'll have to ask you guys, and msindi in particular - if I were to get a turbo with the X50 (yes, I know not to pay extra for it if possible when purchasing pre-owned...) then the stage 4 should be less expensive, correct? Same goes for stage 4 GT, I imagine, but don't know how much the turbos are in terms of the package kit.
 
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Old 12-19-2003 | 01:04 PM
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It's so funny that you started this thread becuase I just got my GS400 back from the shop last week and had my boost turned up to about 8.5 lbs. Which would make the car like a 12.8 to 13.2 Quarter mile car. "The Freaking car feels like a Slug"...

The Turbo has made me loose interest in lots of other cars, simply becuase I know that they cannot keep up with it. "I do not know if this is a bad thing "....I will have my Stage 4GTR and Stage 2 clutch with Pss9s installed in 2 weeks and at that point I Do not think there is turning back to any other Sports car. "We'll maybe an S7 or CGT. But even still, I don't know that they would compare!!! All of us "EVO-FVD-Imagine Auto (A.K.A) Stage ?? guys are very very lucky.
 
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POWER does tend to Corrupt!

 
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Old 12-19-2003 | 01:13 PM
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I have not driven a stock turbo in some time, it would probably be interesting!

 
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haha for me it is the opposite.. lol

when i drive my woifes a4 1.8T the turbo is soooo sluggish and teh car so slow, compared to my N/A 996 , the non turbo feels soo much faster

lol...

actually in truth my 87 supra turbo is faster than my 996 it pushes around 400hp plus at the wheels

i wish had a 996 turbo
 
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Old 12-19-2003 | 01:17 PM
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This is amazing - I've only driven the turbos, and I felt exactly what I read here - it was almost scary fast to me, but I'm used to vehicles like an E500 and Boxster S tip. I can't even fathom what 2nd and 3rd gears are like with these stage 4 kits!!
 
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Old 12-19-2003 | 01:47 PM
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Freed and others, why don't you just shoot me instead of slowly twisting the knife. Bastards! God I can't wait for my car!
 
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Old 12-19-2003 | 01:49 PM
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Nanny, nanny, boo, boo I have 773 horses and you don't!



Actually I am going to be shipping my car to Todd soon so I won't have a car either Tim! BOO HOO!

Can't wait till spring though!

 
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Old 12-19-2003 | 02:02 PM
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Nanny, nanny, boo, boo I have 773 horses and you don't!



Actually I am going to be shipping my car to Todd soon so I won't have a car either Tim! BOO HOO!

Can't wait till spring though!

What more could you POSSIBLY be getting on your car from EVO than what you already have!!!
 
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Old 12-19-2003 | 02:08 PM
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teutonic - 4GT needs new turbos so starting with an X50 does not help much. Level 4 does use K24s and GT2 intercoolers are recommended both of which youd be getting with the X50.
 
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Old 12-19-2003 | 02:11 PM
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thanks mansour - guess I'll be looking for an X50 then - much easier upgrade to stage 4...

Too bad dealers don't think X50 adds nothing to the price in the wholesale market! Of course if they took a trade they wouldn't count the X50, but when they sell it, that's another story! What I find most of all is that they base the selling price not on miles, but on sticker. If a car had a sticker of 150k, they want 130k, essentially because of X50.
 


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