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Old 05-26-2006, 02:21 AM
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Originally Posted by FineProperty
I think this is where your error is, the CU avatar puts you in Denver, altitude adjusting for 4-5000 feet of altitude. You don't get to make that adjustment in a turbo, it makes it's own altitude. So, knock off the 3%x4.5 ish, puts you about 406 hp.
exactly.....the "Altitude" adjustment is where the numbers will get skewed waay off Add to that it's a small roller Dynojet...and voila, you've got overinflated numbers
 
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I thought the SAE correction factor compensates for all the temp/humidity/etc...
 
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What are the correction factors on the dyno. Theres a nearby dyno by me that has a correction factor thats absurd. Anyone that dynos there gets big inflated numbers, make sure this isnt the case here.

The SAE numbers can be altered to produce higher numbers.
 
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I was just at a 4 wheel dynojet... and we set the factor at SAE..... and apparently that is the closest setting to real life HP numbers... I didnt see any manipulation options...
just go to the track and run the car... if u trap 126 mph u have a 600 hp car, if u trap 123 mph u have a 550 hp car... if u trap 119 u have a 500 hp car... and if u trap 116/117 mph u have a stock car...
 
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This same dyno tested a RUF 550 kit at 480 hp. Is it that far off?
 
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Originally Posted by Jean
I don't know who your tuner is, so this is not going against anyone, but the K16s will give you around 450-460 FWHP (Flywheel) maximum on the 996TT regardless of how good your programming is, they just cannot flow more.
If your car is running lean you should be seeing normally more torque on the dyno not less, it was already mentioned above I believe.
The stock ECU will adjust for the intake and exhaust mods, you should not be running lean.
All of the above indicates to me that your tuner was not having a good day, or you maybe misunderstood what he told you.
In any case his dyno needs serious calibration/maintenance.
Don't get carried away by these anomalies, I would do my due diligence before using this dyno for further assessment of mods, it will obvoiusly mislead you.
What does tuner have to do with this? It was virtually stock...just intake and exhaust upgraded...no tuning...this was just for a baseline!
 
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Originally Posted by MARKSKI
just go to the track and run the car... if u trap 126 mph u have a 600 hp car, if u trap 123 mph u have a 550 hp car... if u trap 119 u have a 500 hp car... and if u trap 116/117 mph u have a stock car...
Best post in the thread thus far, IMO.
 

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Originally Posted by AMG ETR
My stage 2 made one of the highest numbers in the country @ 468 (uncorrected and on a dyno that reads much less than a dyno jet, but still), Evan
468 rwhp yet you only ran a 12.1 @ 119?
 
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That's the problem with most chassis dynos, very operator dependent, too many variables and corrections. With all do respect to Wross, there ain't no way in hell a stock turbo is putting down 474rwhp (maybe 374), we all know that. This just highlights the inaccuracies inherent in various tuner's chassis dynos.
 
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Wait a minute!!!

Your saying you got "474 was best and 461 worst" with just an exhaust and intake.

then your saying "RUF 550 kit at 480 hp"

Erm, I would say there is definatlry something wrong there!!!
 
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Originally Posted by C4S Surgeon
That's the problem with most chassis dynos, very operator dependent, too many variables and corrections. With all do respect to Wross, there ain't no way in hell a stock turbo is putting down 474rwhp (maybe 374), we all know that. This just highlights the inaccuracies inherent in various tuner's chassis dynos.
Funny you say that...when my mechanic called with the reults I said let me guess...I said 375...then 365...that's when he told me 474. Mark is probably correct also...I actually could care less what the hp is...I was just doing this to get a before and after look.
 
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Originally Posted by 996TT_STEVO
Wait a minute!!!

Your saying you got "474 was best and 461 worst" with just an exhaust and intake.

then your saying "RUF 550 kit at 480 hp"

Erm, I would say there is definatlry something wrong there!!!
Yeah...that is what I am DEFINATELY saying...so what is wrong?
 
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Yeah...that is what I am DEFINATELY saying...so what is wrong?
 
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Originally Posted by wross996TT
Yeah...that is what I am DEFINATELY saying...so what is wrong?
The guy gave you the FWHP instead of RWHP...and the dyno was optimistic.

Or there is a problem with the altitude correction.

Bottom line - a stock ECU with an exhaust and V-Flow will not produce +540 hp at the flywheel.
 
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Yeah...that is what I am DEFINATELY saying...so what is wrong?
This thread is don't forget he will have 1000 hp after the hybrid turbos are installed
 


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