Agree but what he is looking for more then the power and speed, is the sex appeal and exoticness of the Gallardo. I feel by him trying to add all of this power he is tryignt o compensate but he still will not be happy, guarenteed. GT2's are amazing though, if i had the chance to upgrade tomorrow from my turbo, it would be a Gallardo most likely over a GT2, just to change it up. But then my straight performance freak side would say GT2, its a tough call!

 

I dont know why or where you would even find a gallardo outhandling a gt2. gt2 pulls a 1.02 g on the skidpad and 68.7 mph slalom that ive actually seen over 70 mph which is extremely good. the gallardo on the other hand, pulled a 1.00 g and a 68.6 mph on the skid. here is where i got the stats. Not to mention that the gt2 runs high 11's and gallardos 12.4 at best from what ive seen.

http://www.supercarx.com/articles/sp...icle_specs.htm

and on the track, its no competition. the lighter, nimbler gt2 is just a beast. thats what these porsche gt cars are all about. a gallardo is nice, but its NO gt2. so stick with the gt2.

 

Go research some more, Gallardo has run high 11's (Autocar) and has beaten the GT2 on several tracks, including Hockenheim.

 

I was not aware that a gallardo had ever run 11's. that is a very very rare case i would assume since i have never seen any faster than 12.4 at 116 which is 996 911 turbo territory. but, on the nurburgring, the gt2 has run 7:42, here is proof,

http://www.motortrend.com/features/c...ck/index1.html

and the gallardo only runs 7:52.

https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...?postid=191786

what was the MPH that the gallardo ran when it ran 11's? because the gt2 run 11.9 at 121. just curious as to how they stack up trap speed wise.

 

I just looked up the autocar article. you have got to be kidding me. it ran 11.7 at 114, that MPH cannot even run with a stock 996 TT. from a roll, a gt2 will CRUSH a gallardo. 7 mph in trap speed is a long ways away from hanging with a gt2 in terms of speed (GT2 runs 11.9 at 121). even a carrera s will give that a good run for its money bc i have seen a carrera s 12.3 2 115! i will give u the fact that u were correct that it did run 11s but that mph is not an 11s mph. more like mid 12s which is what the car really runs almost everytime. just got a good launch and as u get higher in MPH the gt2 starts to pull away more an more.

Just to add some more info, the 911 turbo runs 0-150 in 21.x and the gallardo, 21.x. the gt2 high 18s i believe. by 150 those 2+ seconds are a huge difference.

not to sound like a ********, but maybe it is you that needs to research some more.

 

So by using your school of thought the new 997TT which ran 11.2@ only 120 mph, should be a complete and utter dissapointment. The question was regards to ET, I posted the ET. Also, you are talking about early Gallardo Egears, I am talking about the 06+ Gallardo, which is substantially quicker than an early Gallardo Egear.

 

997tt ran an 11.4 @ 120-121 and it was its first run ever in a magazine on the cold asphalt!

C4's info is dead on!

 

actually, it was 11.4 @ 120 and the things that were pointed out in another thread, it was done in cold, icy and wet conditions, also with winter tires and not high performance tires. I believe that when we see a real test it will be 11.4 @ about 123-124 for the tip and 11.5 at about 125 for the manual. the new gallardos dont have much more hp that the older ones. what 17 more? yes, about the et you were correct, i am not going to criticize u over that. but remember, when the 996 tt first came out they ran 11.9@117 and that is a 12.3-12.4 sec car at 116-118. yea e gear sucks, but they have had problems with shifters breaking ( i believe R&T noted this cheap flaw). in the end it still is not gt2 or even turbo, but a very nice car that i would like to have just not over a gt2 or turbo (996 or 997).

 

Thanks iLL. love the avatar by the way. the 997 will run faster with approp. conditions and tires (1st test on snow tires).

 

I know the real test time for the 997 tt will be faster. i mean run a gallardo or murc on snow tires in cold, wet, icy conditions and i think people would be rolling on the ground laughing at the embarrassing times they would pull. i can guarantee they wouldnt be 11s and might not even be 12s. i am anxiously awaiting actual tests on the new 911 turbo. i just think the lambos r somewhat dissapointing in terms of their performance compared to their competitors.

 

Just test drove an 06 Gallardo 6spd this weekend. The NA power, the sound and looks was intoxicating. I loved it.....BUT no way in the hell I would trade my GT2 for it. The Gallardo handling is comparable to that of the stock 996TT but far far from my GT2. Very difficult to whip and throw the car into the corner. The car just felt heavy and does not have the razor sharp steering response like the GT2. The car is fast but does take some effort to get above 100mph, whereas the GT2 , going above 100mph is where it wants to stay...

My conclusion is to only buy the Gallardo to add to your stable but do not replace your GT2 for it. You'll be very sorry if you do.....
My 2cents

 

Interesting observation! You are one of the 1st that I know that have actually "DRIVEN" both cars & say that the handeling of the Gallardo was comparaible to a "Stock 996 TT". I on the other hand disagree 100% - thats the beauty of owning these type of cars. We all obsevere different things when driving them! I think the Gallardo is the BEST handeling car I have ever owned or driven for that matter. My Stage IV with Pss9 Suspension DID NOT hold a candle to the Gallardo in regards to handeling. 2 totally different cars completley.

I do have to comment though, you stated above that you "test drove" the gallardo. Can you really make this kind of observation in a "test drive" with a Sales Guy in the car next to you on crowded public streets

 

Saleman was a friend and we did it on the freeway as well as open roads. Don't get me wrong, I love the car and am planning to purchase one shortly. However, I will not replace my GT2 for it.

 

Are you kidding? Of course he can make that determination. He set up his own skidpad, braking and handling tests, even had the salesman lay out the cones, and then came to that rightfull determination.

 

Dissapointing in terms of what? Here are a few tests for you to ponder taken same day. As of now, Im rather dissapointed in the Porsches performance.

1'17"373 - 119.11 Kph - Ferrari F430 F1 MY06 (2nd run; Compostite Brakes, Composite seats) --SUPERTEST 2006--
1'17"814 - 118.44 Kph - Lamborghini Gallardo e-gear MY06 (520hp, Composite Brakes) --SUPERTEST 2006--
1'19"510 - 115.91 Kph - Chrysler Viper 8.3l SRT-10 (2nd run) --SUPERTEST 2006--
1'19"523 - 115.90 Kph - POS POS --SUPERTEST 2006--
1'19"810 - 115.47 Kph - Ford GT --SUPERTEST 2006--
1'19"963 - 115.25 Kph - Porsche 997 Turbo (overboost 680 Nm, composite brakes) --SUPERTEST 2006--


full test results:

Quattroruote 07/2006
Vairano Track
Test Drivers
Marco Perrucca Orfei
Paolo Massai (ex Ferrari F1)
Maurizio Bré
Maurizio Giani (chief test-drivers)
Shaun Bailey from ROAD&TRACK
Douglas Kott from ROAD&TRACK (he' said "Vairano is fantastic")

The Supercars:
Ferrari F430 F1 MY06 (Composite brakes and composite seats)
Lamborghini Gallardo e-gear MY06 (520hp)
Porsche 997 Turbo (Overboost 680 Nm)
POS POS
Viper
Ford GT

Acceleration KPH
F430 /Gal / 997 / POS / Viper / GT

0-60 2.10s / 2.11s / 1.97s / 2.37s / 2.33s / 2.26s
0-100 4.16s / 4.40s / 4.24s / 4.50s / 4.54s / 4.17s
0-160 8.38s / 9.40s / 9.62s / 9.07s / 9.48s / 8.36s
0-200 12.53s / 14.40s / 15.32s / 14.40s / 14.41s / 11.77s
0-240 18.42s / 22.41s / --.-- / 20.37s / 21.34s / 16.96s

1/4 Mile
12.02s @ 198.0 Kph / 12.52s @ 185.6 Kph / 12.46s @ 182.4 Kph / 12.36s @ 191.0 Kph / 12.50s @ 187.2 Kph / 11.94s 202.3 Kph
1 KM
21.49s @ 251.9 Kph / 22.54s @ 240.8 Kph / 22.66s @ 235.2 Kph / 22.24s @ 245.0 Kph / 22.46s @ 243.1 Kph / 21.18s @ 257.6 Kph

Few comments
All start not good.. F430 has lost, from 0 to 60 Kph, 1/2s... No launch control?
http://www.autospinetti.it/suppl.%20sito%20AutoSpinetti/430.htm
But did 100-200 1/2s better tha MY05....
About 997 Turbo, Quattroruote's said about "problems with clutch, and we must start @ low rpm

BRAKES 200-0 Kph
134.5m / 132.8m / 136.1m / 146.1m / 139.8m / 146.2m
Gallardo wins, Ferrari Ok. THE SURVEY STARTS WHEN DRIVER TOUCHES THE BRAKE

SKIPAD (r = 55m)
1.10g / 1.14g / 1.11g / 1.11g / 1.12g / 1.07g
Gallardo wins!!

Slalom 8*30.48m (100 Ft) Request by R&T
8.49s / 8.53s / 8.61s / 8.57s / 8.59s / 8.62s
Ferrari wins, 997 and GT not good

Vairano Hadling track (air 18-20 °C, track 23-25 °C)
F430 1'17"737 (1"6 better than F430 MY05, èrbably cause fixed setup and a little bit upgraded-engine)
Gallardo 1'17"814
Viper 1'19"510
POS POS 1'19"523
Ford GT 1'19"810
Porsche 997 Turbo 1'19"963

Impressive F430 and gallardo (it confirms Galalrdo SE lap time), ABOUT f430, impressive lateral end brake G: both 1.21g

Verdict (max 1000 pts)
1. F430 916
2. Gallardo 849
3. 997 TT 759
4. Ford 677
5. Viper 674
6. POS 664