RWD Conversion Complete...one word...AWESOME!!!
#181
07-31-2007, 04:35 AM
Originally Posted by stuka
Guys, as some of you know. I had a 996 Turbo for 2 years, hated the AWD and PSM even though when I bought it I thought I would like it, it was a boyhood dream of mine to own one.
So I took a bath and sold it and got a GT2.
Problem is, this rear seat business is going to be a problem for me sooner rathre than later. When we have kids, the GT2 is going to become worthless, because I can't put a baby seat in the back.
I konw it can be done, but to risk possible insurance coverage problems on my family is just selfish.
So, I have looked into the possibility of converting a 996 Turbo to GT2.
I can live with the weight and the thicker carpets and what not, but what I can't live with is PSM.
So, here is what I think is needed:
1. GT2 harness.
2. GT2 DME (which means GT2 turbos)
3. GT2 front carrier.
4. removal of front transfer case and half shafts
Please add other required parts.
Maybe, just maybe it can be doable...
Plus the Turbo insurnace is light years cheaper than the GT2. And yes, I am speaking from experience.
So I took a bath and sold it and got a GT2.
Problem is, this rear seat business is going to be a problem for me sooner rathre than later. When we have kids, the GT2 is going to become worthless, because I can't put a baby seat in the back.
I konw it can be done, but to risk possible insurance coverage problems on my family is just selfish.
So, I have looked into the possibility of converting a 996 Turbo to GT2.
I can live with the weight and the thicker carpets and what not, but what I can't live with is PSM.
So, here is what I think is needed:
1. GT2 harness.
2. GT2 DME (which means GT2 turbos)
3. GT2 front carrier.
4. removal of front transfer case and half shafts
Please add other required parts.
Maybe, just maybe it can be doable...
Plus the Turbo insurnace is light years cheaper than the GT2. And yes, I am speaking from experience.
#184
07-31-2007, 10:12 AM
Originally Posted by stuka
Problem is, this rear seat business is going to be a problem for me sooner rathre than later. When we have kids, the GT2 is going to become worthless, because I can't put a baby seat in the back.
I konw it can be done, but to risk possible insurance coverage problems on my family is just selfish.
I konw it can be done, but to risk possible insurance coverage problems on my family is just selfish.
Justin
#186
07-31-2007, 11:51 AM
Originally Posted by heavychevy
Do you track the car? If not getting rid of PSM is really useless.
When I turn something off, I expect it to stay off.
#187
07-31-2007, 11:54 AM
Originally Posted by justinmm2
Why not just get a cheap sedan for <$10k for riding with the kids? If the GT2 is no longer listed as a primary driver, you'll save on insurance too, assuming you have a sane insurance company. Even if you do all the powertrain conversions, you're still up a few hundred pounds, among other things (smaller wheels, less aggressive aero/styling, etc.)
Justin
Justin
Sometimes I just want to be able to drive the whole family in a fast car. The current GT2 doesn't do it. From my observations, two seaters becomes not very useful with children, and I have many two seater only couple friends. A Turbo seating configuration would be optimal.
I don't care about the aero and the wheels (same size as the Turbo actually, same wheel), the goal is to have a good ole fashioned RWD Turbo with no electronics. 964 is too old to be considered. 993 is also AWD.
#188
07-31-2007, 11:56 AM
Originally Posted by silvershark
What are you referring to: 3. GT2 front carrier ? Please explain.
Also, the GT2 has factory coilover, whereas the Turbo does not.
#190
07-31-2007, 12:09 PM
Originally Posted by oak
from my experience psm only comes on when you are hacking. rarely should trigger if you are taking the correct lines. you need all front wheel drive.
PSM lets you do neither, and it pissed me off enough that I decided that losing $$ over the Turbo was worth it to get rid of that worthless POS PSM.
#191
07-31-2007, 12:21 PM
sideways on the street? well you definatley have the wrong vehicle. you should have thought about it before your purchased the turbo. rear engine porsches in general aren't set up to go sideways. everone knows that.
as far as trail braking why can't you do that in the turbo? I think you would do yourself a favor and get a 240 sx and go sideways all day. imho it's not that fun. more fun to be rewarded by taking a corner at max speed and hitting the apex correctly meaning the smoothest in shortest amount of time.
as far as trail braking why can't you do that in the turbo? I think you would do yourself a favor and get a 240 sx and go sideways all day. imho it's not that fun. more fun to be rewarded by taking a corner at max speed and hitting the apex correctly meaning the smoothest in shortest amount of time.
#192
07-31-2007, 12:47 PM
Originally Posted by oak
sideways on the street? well you definatley have the wrong vehicle. you should have thought about it before your purchased the turbo. rear engine porsches in general aren't set up to go sideways. everone knows that.
I can get my GT2 to go seriously sideways on the street, on command. Why do you think the GT2 has a reputation for being a death trap? It is basically the same car as the Turbo without the front drive and the POS PSM.
Originally Posted by oak
as far as trail braking why can't you do that in the turbo? I think you would do yourself a favor and get a 240 sx and go sideways all day. imho it's not that fun. more fun to be rewarded by taking a corner at max speed and hitting the apex correctly meaning the smoothest in shortest amount of time.
You need to do yourself a favor and not tell others what is good for them. The GT2 does everything I wanted. It lets me do lurid oversteer on the street, and it lets me trail brake all day long without that stupid PSM coming back on trying to save me form myself.
Like what Turbo's used to be, made famous by the 964 Turbo, the Widow Maker.
#194
07-31-2007, 01:20 PM
Originally Posted by oak
well, keep it up and WILL lose it sooner or later. I hope no one get's injured or killed FOR YOUR KIDS SAKE.
I am sorry you can't drive a RWD car without electronics. Perhaps a few autox classes and basic car control classes will ease you fear.
And I have been doing this since the days of E36 M3. If you can't go sideways with your eyes closed, you are the problem.
Now, back to the regular scheduled RWD conversion programming.
#195
07-31-2007, 01:34 PM
Originally Posted by Mikelly
I'm glad I skipped to the back of this thread and read Heavy Chevy's post... Good to get the perspective of someone tracking their car the way I use mine...
I'll be staying AWD!
Mike
I'll be staying AWD!
Mike
Or...you could leave it AWD and enjoy it that way as well.
