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Old 07-01-2006, 09:57 AM
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Coil Over Negatives

I have heard all the great things about Coilovers, what are the negatives (bumpy roads etc. etc.)? Why doesn't Porsche include them on the new Turbo, what are the downsides? thanks in advance
 
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no down side except clearing driveways if you lower it too much
 
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the originals ARE coilovers albeit not adjustable
 
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Old 07-01-2006, 10:24 AM
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coilover were OEM for GT3, GT2. I think the only down side is they cost more than normal suspension and Porsche want to keep the building cost down.
 
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almost every suspension now is coilover. The just means that the spring or coil is over the damper. When you hear coilovers in the aftermarket world it means adjustable height spring perches and sometimes adjustable dampening and rebounding.
 
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Forgot to answer to actual question. There really is no negative. The only down side would be you have to get under the car to adjust height and dampening. I would reccomend a system such as TEIN system which has electronic dampening. That can set it to noce and soft for cruising and firm it up on a bad road or when driving hard.
 
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My car has hr lowering springs (for looks). When I am driving at high speeds the front end still feels light and bouncy, will coilovers help with that? If yes, how?
 
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yes, because the dampers are tuned to the springs. Right now you are running a shorter stiffer spring and your dampers are tuned for the softer longer stock springs. You will have more bounce (uncontrolled damping) and also faster wear on your stock dampers. The other option is to get a set of "heavy duty" dampers instead of replacing everything. You will still not have the adjustability of coilovers though.
 
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no down side..
 
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IMO, 99.99% of adjustable coilover owners don't know the beginning of adjusting truly for better handling because suspension tuning is black magic.

I'd get it just to set it and leave it... so that you're getting a set that's matched together.

Just get a set that's reliable and will lower to the height you want. I'd honestly stay away from PSS9s and spend a bit more for KW3s for example. Especially if you plan on lowering it really nicely meaning two finger gaps or less.
 
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No downside if you do not lower too much (which is 100% adjustable). You will get a softer ride and stiffer overall feel. It's majic.....
 
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IMO, 99.99% of adjustable coilover owners don't know the beginning of adjusting truly for better handling because suspension tuning is black magic.
So the group on here is the .01% I guess?

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I'd get it just to set it and leave it... so that you're getting a set that's matched together.
I have changed mine 4 times and am about to do it again...takes uh...5 minutes.

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Just get a set that's reliable and will lower to the height you want. I'd honestly stay away from PSS9s and spend a bit more for KW3s for example. Especially if you plan on lowering it really nicely meaning two finger gaps or less.
My PSS9s are ...awesome...so I'm not sure about your advice...although I do not track mine...yet and I have the FVD version. IMHO.
 
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yes, because the dampers are tuned to the springs. Right now you are running a shorter stiffer spring and your dampers are tuned for the softer longer stock springs. You will have more bounce (uncontrolled damping) and also faster wear on your stock dampers. The other option is to get a set of "heavy duty" dampers instead of replacing everything. You will still not have the adjustability of coilovers though.
How does everyone feel about me using "heavy duty" dampers. would someone at my dealer (Champion Motors) know what to do, or should i go to FVD
 
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Hate to comment on that which I do not know, but I have been very happy with my FVD products!
 
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There are potential negatives if you have a coil over system installed that will not deliver what you want for your car. For example if you want a very flat ride and you install a system with gushy springs, you will be unhappy and vice versa. If you know what you want, and get a system that matches that, you will be very happy.
 


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