Hey Statman - quick follow-up questions:

You've got me excited about these new tires. Haven't been this excited about rubber since I was 16 So what will I notice mostly?

And, since I've got Sport Technos(on my 2nd set in less than 6mos thanks to hoodlums), I've got 7mm front spacers and 15mm rear spacers to fit so they should still fit ok?

 

oh yeah, and Hook 'em

 

Mine are on with NO spacers...so I can't answer that. BTW I put the MPSC on (went from the PS2s and OMG...awesome is all I can say...it is like riding on rails (reminds me of the old YOKO 008s which they don't make anymore). I'm taking 90 dgree turns at >45mph

 

Just telling you, you are going to hate the feel of the car with springs, save the headache!

 

I went with JIC Cross coilovers and PS2's. I think the car is amazing in the corners. Very tight, but still an acceptable daily driver. Love it

 

IS no one else using a GT3 rear bar. TRUST ME. It flattens out the car and forces the front to bite more. Try it for less than 200$ you can't loose. Many of these other options are MUCH more. I like it a lot! It almost feels twitchy but that s because I was used to the understeer. I have alot of room to tighten but for now second softest is fine.

 

You recommend just the rear bar, or front and rear?!?

 

I never heard of just the sway bar, is that by itself a good upgrade or does the suspension need upgraded at the same time?

 

The rear sway bar is a bolt-on affair. Easy to do especially compared to the front sways. The front bar would need drop links to mount it. TRG used to make them but don't know if they still do or not. S-Car-Go also made curved ones so if anyone's keeping the front shafts and not going two wheel drive, you need either option for the fron sway bar. On mine I had the tightest setting and liked how it minimized the understeer.

 

The rear swaybar will make a huge difference. The front will not make nearly as much of a difference. You may want to be careful though as this will move the car towards oversteer at the limit of traction.

To explain my post before, if you buy coilovers you are getting a tuned combination of springs and dampers (shocks). Just springs without stronger dampers will cause an imbalance.

Lowering springs have to be stiffer to prevent bottoming because they have less distance to travel. That extra stiffness will all cause them to spring back more quickly. Your stock shocks or dampers are not tuned for the faster rebound and this combination will actually cause MORE of a floating feeling in the front end over bumps (less control over rebound). For many cars you can buy heavier/stronger dampers from Bilstein, KYB, etc. I am not sure if these are available for this specific application.

 

I've got a really cheap solution, well maybe not solution, but doesn't cost anything and might address your problem. One of the biggest causes for "floating" feeling is over inflation of tires. The owners manual is a good place to start, but since all tires are different, the optimal pressures will differ between tire manufacturers and even by each tire model as well as the application you're using them for. I'd try lowering the pressures by 2lbs per tire on the front and maybe even 1 or 2 in the rear, you should feel more connected to the road. If it's sloppy, then go back up, however usually the factory "recommendations" seem to be on the high side and not the most optimal for handling, however you will get better gas mileage with "over inflated" factory recommendations since there's less rolling resistance.

 

Sorry for the late reply. I suggest suspension and the rear bar. You need a bit lower and stiffer on these cars. The bar after the suspension really flattend the car out though. I also started running 3,2 on my PSS9 and it is a little stiff but much less bouncey over bumps. Recoil is controlled better. I also am running 235 front and 315 rear with some offsets and it helps with the understeer. Someone did caution about the rear bar and oversteer. I can say that I am on the second softest and the car really changed. I would not go full stiff and haul *** to the track. You may find your self early apexing and crashing. Much more responsive. My buddy in his GT3 is running front and rear 1 click firmer than me and his car feels like a go cart. Very, very responsive. Make small changes at a time and get used to it. This was suggested to me and now I see why. I may have been happy on full softest but we started on second softest where we were advised and love it.

 

GOD DAM, cant wait to get my sways