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Old 07-07-2006 | 10:41 AM
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Is my car supposed to feel like a speed boat?

When traveling around bends at speed, the turbo feels so light and disconnected in the front. Is this because of the rear weight distribution or because my suspension is too soft? I have ROW suspension. I am also thinking of doing the RWD conversion but I am a little worried that taking more weight off the front of the car may make the weight distribution even worse. What do you guys think?
 
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Old 07-07-2006 | 11:37 AM
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Could be suspension...perhaps you need a little more performance there (JICs or even Moton route), but also could be rubber/rims. What are you running? and what are the tire pressures?
 
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These cars drive a differently. You need a slower in, faster out approach.
 
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Old 07-07-2006 | 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by wross996TT
Could be suspension...perhaps you need a little more performance there (JICs or even Moton route), but also could be rubber/rims. What are you running? and what are the tire pressures?
Well, speed boat may have been a bit of an exageration.
I have new bridgestone SO2's and run the pressures as in the owners manual. 45rears and 38fronts.

I would love to go with some coilovers but im on a bit of a budget. Would thicker sway bars help?
 
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doing a rwd conversion with out changing the geometry of the suspention
makes the car feel like a pig pretty much in all corners.

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Old 07-07-2006 | 12:06 PM
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These cars drive a differently. You need a slower in, faster out approach.
Yeah, I think part of it is just getting used to it.
 
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doing a rwd conversion with out changing the geometry of the suspention
makes the car feel like a pig pretty much in all corners.

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Not compared to it being fully AWD. My car when i did the disconnection and RWD, plus having suspension but even on stock wheels and pirelli's felt 100x different, more precise and better then my AWD on ROW, cant compare!
 
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Originally Posted by calbobba996TT
doing a rwd conversion with out changing the geometry of the suspention
makes the car feel like a pig pretty much in all corners.

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What needs to be done to make it handle well with a RWD conversion? Sways? Camber plates? Coilovers?
 
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What needs to be done to make it handle well with a RWD conversion? Sways? Camber plates? Coilovers?
Well iw ould assume you can run it slammed on coilovers or ROW suspension. One thing i think would be bad about going RWD with ROW, is that back end wallowy feeling coming around a hill or bend that it sometimes got that being dropped and stiffer totally eliminated. being RWD with more power to the ground and without the traction up front and stock suspension, im sure it would lose its grip and wont be pretty. Hard to describe, but it was the worst feeling when the back end would feel loose.
 
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Originally Posted by rwm514
When traveling around bends at speed, the turbo feels so light and disconnected in the front. Is this because of the rear weight distribution or because my suspension is too soft? I have ROW suspension. I am also thinking of doing the RWD conversion but I am a little worried that taking more weight off the front of the car may make the weight distribution even worse. What do you guys think?
I have the ROW and feel the same way, which is why I posted a question about coilovers last week. I think the JIC's are the answer from what everyone says. Someone suggested this, but I am not sure what he is talking about Salespunk vbmenu_register("postmenu_635573", true);
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yes, because the dampers are tuned to the springs. Right now you are running a shorter stiffer spring and your dampers are tuned for the softer longer stock springs. You will have more bounce (uncontrolled damping) and also faster wear on your stock dampers. The other option is to get a set of "heavy duty" dampers instead of replacing everything. You will still not have the adjustability of coilovers though.
 
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What are heavy duty Dampers and were can I get the ones I need?
 
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Originally Posted by rwm514
Well, speed boat may have been a bit of an exageration.
I have new bridgestone SO2's and run the pressures as in the owners manual. 45rears and 38fronts.

I would love to go with some coilovers but im on a bit of a budget. Would thicker sway bars help?
First suggestion get new rubber...try either MPS2s or MPSC, also go to 235/40 and 315/30. I think recommended psi is 36/44 BTW. You won't believe the difference this will make!

Second, and this is only if you feel the need (or have lots of cash hanging around) go with coilovers...I use FVD PSS9s (I do not track the car) and they are quite adequate or of course go better...JIC...Moton...Ohlin...etc. I don't think the sway bars will get you that much, but I have not tried them either.
 
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Originally Posted by wross996TT
try either MPS2s or MPSC, also go to 235/40 and 315/30
so those sizes will fit a stock turbo that is originally 225/40 and 295/30 on 18in wheels?
 
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Old 07-07-2006 | 04:00 PM
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so those sizes will fit a stock turbo that is originally 225/40 and 295/30 on 18in wheels?
Yes and you will love me for the suggestion! BTW no rolling required and my car is lowered with PSS9 FVD.
 
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Old 07-07-2006 | 04:01 PM
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I called my guy at Champion Motors and he said that floating feeling in the front is the "911". He said Coilovers will help handling like everyone says but will not eliminate the bouncing altoghether. I do not go wild with my car (*****), so i am going to stick with the lowering springs till I get some money, but first I want a Techart kit (I'm all show anyway)
 


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