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Originally Posted by LittleEngineer
Shiv at Vishnu Performance Systems dynoed a bone stock C6 Z06 recently and it laid down 505rwhp. These cars are HEAVILY underrated from the factory. I would guess closer to 550 at the crank is likely.
That's obviously an innacurate number. Not one stock Z06 has trapped faster than 127 mph thus far....which is not a 505 rwhp car. And this includes cars driven by the best Z06 drag racers around (Ranger, Major, etc).

What is also strange is that even with all of the mods people are doing to them (headers, exhaust, intake tune and cams)...and the dyno increases to over 500 rwhp, only one guy has hit 10's (10.98) and I don't think anyone has gone better than 129 mph trap. And all of these runs are on drag radials even.

Not sure what is going on with those cars.
 

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Scott, I know that no one has yet successfully added FI to a C6ZO6. Do you think that will happen at some point, or is the C6ZO6 engine simply not compatible with FI (e.g., compression issues)? It appears that a C6ZO6 will need FI to keep pace with the high HP 996TTs.

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I think it'll happen...but it's going to take some more R&D. I'm not sure if anyone will get it right with the current compression levels, though. I think a TT set-up on lower compression will be the ticket and I think we'll see that by the end of the year (based on what I've been reading).

I agree about them needing FI to keep pace with the big power TT's. Even the top Z06 racers on CF are saying they're surprised only one person has hit 10's so far in the year or so the car's been on the streets.

It seems they make good power with bolt-ons on the dyno...but the power doesn't seem to translate to big numbers on the dragstrip regardless of how good of a launch they get. Some of those guys are hitting consistent 1.6 60's...and still running only low 11's at 127-129. The Vipers definitely get more from their bolt-ons at the strip than it seems the C6 Z06 is getting. Strange.
 

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Originally Posted by Craig
Scott, I know that no one has yet successfully added FI to a C6ZO6. Do you think that will happen at some point, or is the C6ZO6 engine simply not compatible with FI (e.g., compression issues)? It appears that a C6ZO6 will need FI to keep pace with the high HP 996TTs.

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Craig, they also said that about the M3's, but yet they are holding up to FI rather well. Its all within due time, they will get kits out and down pat for the C6 Z06!
 
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Craig, they also said that about the M3's, but yet they are holding up to FI rather well. Its all within due time, they will get kits out and down pat for the C6 Z06!
Martin - I have heard some Z06 engines have already popped with prototype low boost S/C's installed. Also, a lot of proven tuners have been trying and not accomplishing this feat yet. The Z06 engines just don't seem be taking to them well at all.

The E46 M3 really never had this problem. Not even with the prototypes.
 

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Martin - I have heard some Z06 engines have already popped with prototype low boost S/C's installed. Also, a lot of proven tuners have been trying and not accompliching this feat yet. The Z06 engines just don't seem be taking to them well at all.

The E46 M3 really never had this problem. Not even with the prototypes.
Damm didnt know they have blown a few already, or that even kits were in the works, hmm! I know it wasnt an issue with the M3 at first or ever, BUT people never thought with its compression, it could handle half of the power that we are seeing from them now under FI!
 
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I just posted a question over on CF. Trying to find out if anyone has trapped over 129 in a modded C6 Z06 yet.
 
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Originally Posted by Divexxtreme
That's obviously an innacurate number. Not one stock Z06 has trapped faster than 127 mph thus far....which is not a 505 rwhp car. And this includes cars driven by the best Z06 drag racers around (Ranger, Major, etc).

What is also strange is that even with all of the mods people are doing to them (headers, exhaust, intake tune and cams)...and the dyno increases to over 500 rwhp, only one guy has hit 10's (10.98) and I don't think anyone has gone better than 129 mph trap. And all of these runs are on drag radials even.

Not sure what is going on with those cars.
131 is the best trap I've seen to date.

I think there are a couple of problems, 1) their stock clutch sucks 2)the torque management makes it hard to launch hard 3) nobody has a ton of seat time in the cars.
 
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Originally Posted by Craig
Scott, I know that no one has yet successfully added FI to a C6ZO6. Do you think that will happen at some point, or is the C6ZO6 engine simply not compatible with FI (e.g., compression issues)? It appears that a C6ZO6 will need FI to keep pace with the high HP 996TTs.

Craig
I was just told by a friend that a local tooner to us has a TT C6 Z...
 
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I would love to know who blew up one of the 427's in the Z06. I have heard of none and I just refinished bolting one together and I see know way that they could not handle most any mod, including high boost. You're wasting your time listening to rumors. There has been no report of any engine failure of any of the 6000 Z06 so far produced reported to GM.
 
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Originally Posted by 1999Porsche911
There has been no report of any engine failure of any of the 6000 Z06 so far produced reported to GM.


don't read the corvette forum much, do you?
 
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don't read the corvette forum much, do you?
And you believe everything you read in a forum?
 
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I think I read on CF that RUF-RACER HAD 2 ENGINE FAILURES ON THE SAME CAR!!
 
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And you believe everything you read in a forum?

The owners of the blown car's themselves are reporting it.
 
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Originally Posted by dgussin1
131 is the best trap I've seen to date.

I think there are a couple of problems, 1) their stock clutch sucks 2)the torque management makes it hard to launch hard 3) nobody has a ton of seat time in the cars.
Seat time and torque management really shouldn't effect trap speed much. It'll mostly effect E.T. But the clutch issue makes sense. Thanks.
 


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