Which upgrade will handle a Z06 in a short sprint?
#1
Which upgrade will handle a Z06 in a short sprint?
A few Z06's are starting to give me "wanna run' looks. Will they smoke a stage 2 ? Will the Sharks upgrade handle them? Its time to fight those Chevys. I am looking the beat them in a 20 to 100 run, straight line, thats all, I do not really race, but a quick spirited run to 100 is all I would do, any more than that I will not do. What is it going to take?
#2
Rich if they are new Z06'S you will need alot of work to run them in any sprint. They are 500hp stock and a few upgrades that are cheap pushes them +525...they will smoke most cars on the road to 100 or so..
#3
I asked this same question a few months back. It seems the general consensus was that a EVOMS Stage 4 should allow you to equal, or surpass the Z06 acceleration--anything less and you see the Vette's rear.
Personally, this makes no sense to me. An EVOMS stage 4 upgrade claims to give you 600hp. I would think a 600hp 996tt would destroy a Z06 considering the new 997tt with less than 500hp, and only a few pounds lighter, has comparable acceleration (at least according to recent magazine tests). I suppose EVOMS could be greatly exaggerating their power increase, but absent that---What am I missing?
Personally, this makes no sense to me. An EVOMS stage 4 upgrade claims to give you 600hp. I would think a 600hp 996tt would destroy a Z06 considering the new 997tt with less than 500hp, and only a few pounds lighter, has comparable acceleration (at least according to recent magazine tests). I suppose EVOMS could be greatly exaggerating their power increase, but absent that---What am I missing?
#4
Cannot always go by dyno
I think it shows that you cannot live by the dyno alone. Porsche has always been know as a car that can put the power down to the wheels without losing from the engine to the tires (thats what really made them). It seems like in the case of the Z06, Chevy is getting the power down to the tires with little loss. Their success in racing is being used in that car, it is not just marketing talk. I would still love to smoke one in a sprint. Maybe we are getting in the syndrome that we accused other cars of having, high peak tq and hp but not true real life driving hp and tq, otherwise why wouldn't a almost 700 horse power car to the wheels not smoke the Z06
#5
Originally Posted by Bobby_P
I asked this same question a few months back. It seems the general consensus was that a EVOMS Stage 4 should allow you to equal, or surpass the Z06 acceleration--anything less and you see the Vette's rear.
Personally, this makes no sense to me. An EVOMS stage 4 upgrade claims to give you 600hp. I would think a 600hp 996tt would destroy a Z06 considering the new 997tt with less than 500hp, and only a few pounds lighter, has comparable acceleration (at least according to recent magazine tests). I suppose EVOMS could be greatly exaggerating their power increase, but absent that---What am I missing?
Personally, this makes no sense to me. An EVOMS stage 4 upgrade claims to give you 600hp. I would think a 600hp 996tt would destroy a Z06 considering the new 997tt with less than 500hp, and only a few pounds lighter, has comparable acceleration (at least according to recent magazine tests). I suppose EVOMS could be greatly exaggerating their power increase, but absent that---What am I missing?
#6
Here are a couple of links to C6 Z06 1/4 mile runs...the first video link has several runs on one video. The yellow C6 with checkered graphics is quite faster than any of the other Z06's - probably modded (watch how fast it launches - wow!). Many of the C6 Z06 runs are in the 12's. I think stage 4 996tt is roughly equal to the new Z06.
http://videos.streetfire.net/search/...6fc1948b80.htm
Not sure if this one is modded or not, but the time is roughly equivilent to a stage 4 996tt or a RUF R turbo on a good run:
http://videos.streetfire.net/search/...4de59c6ba9.htm
http://videos.streetfire.net/search/...6fc1948b80.htm
Not sure if this one is modded or not, but the time is roughly equivilent to a stage 4 996tt or a RUF R turbo on a good run:
http://videos.streetfire.net/search/...4de59c6ba9.htm
#7
I've run with a Z06 several times. A stage 4 with 91 octane is required for under 100 MPH. Even so, races under 100 will primarily be won by the person who shifts faster and takes it to redline in every gear. Many owners are afraid to take it to redline and don't shift so fast.
In other words, if you beat a Z06, you still can't be sure if you were really faster under 100. Things happen too fast! 60 to 100 is only about 4 seconds of racing!
See the 60 to 130 times we posted. That will let you know how you compare. The Z06 does it in 9.2 seconds.
In other words, if you beat a Z06, you still can't be sure if you were really faster under 100. Things happen too fast! 60 to 100 is only about 4 seconds of racing!
See the 60 to 130 times we posted. That will let you know how you compare. The Z06 does it in 9.2 seconds.
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#8
Originally Posted by Bill S
I've run with a Z06 several times. A stage 4 with 91 octane is required for under 100 MPH. Even so, races under 100 will primarily be won by the person who shifts faster and takes it to redline in every gear. Many owners are afraid to take it to redline and don't shift so fast.
In other words, if you beat a Z06, you still can't be sure if you were really faster under 100. Things happen too fast! 60 to 100 is only about 4 seconds of racing!
See the 60 to 130 times we posted. That will let you know how you compare. The Z06 does it in 9.2 seconds.
In other words, if you beat a Z06, you still can't be sure if you were really faster under 100. Things happen too fast! 60 to 100 is only about 4 seconds of racing!
See the 60 to 130 times we posted. That will let you know how you compare. The Z06 does it in 9.2 seconds.
#11
Originally Posted by Bill S
I've run with a Z06 several times. A stage 4 with 91 octane is required for under 100 MPH. Even so, races under 100 will primarily be won by the person who shifts faster and takes it to redline in every gear. Many owners are afraid to take it to redline and don't shift so fast.
For the earlier comment about why you need 600 HP...it's due to the AWD drivetrain loss and extra weight of the TT. It takes about 600 HP to trap 125-127 like Z06's do...so there's your answer.
Regarding the the 997TT, with it's VTG's and overboost, it makes much more torque earlier in the rpm range, and has the ability to put 100% of it's power to only the rear wheels (reducing drivetrain loss). It's *extremely quick* to 100 or so. But remember, it still only traps 121..which isn't enough to run with a Stage 4 996TT from a roll.
Last edited by Divexxtreme; 07-25-2006 at 01:47 PM.
#12
Shiv at Vishnu Performance Systems dynoed a bone stock C6 Z06 recently and it laid down 505rwhp. These cars are HEAVILY underrated from the factory. I would guess closer to 550 at the crank is likely.
#13
I have also heard that stock Z06's are laying down 500 or more whp on dyno with no correction factor. It sounds like the muscle car era all over again when company's said things like a 440 6 pack made 250HP for insurance reasons. It will take alot to beat the new Z06.
#14
Originally Posted by Bill S
Can you post your AX-22 graph for 60 to 130? We'll add it to the collection.
#15
Originally Posted by LittleEngineer
Shiv at Vishnu Performance Systems dynoed a bone stock C6 Z06 recently and it laid down 505rwhp. These cars are HEAVILY underrated from the factory. I would guess closer to 550 at the crank is likely.
I doubt a stock car did 505rwhp...that is more like a header, filter, tune car.