Engine cool down
#4
Originally Posted by kiko
It has been tested by the gurus and 1min is the minimum, 2 is optimal and after that is heat soak.
#5
Originally Posted by 9Eleven
Pardon my ignorance, but can someone please define "heat soak" for me.
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#8
Originally Posted by 9Eleven
So if you let it idle for more that 3 or 4 minutes that's bad?
#9
Heatsoak is directly related to thermo dynamics and particularly thermal inertia the best way I find to describe is for instance when you turn off an engine if you turn the ignition on 5 minutes later you'll see (on the dash) the temperature reading is actually higher than before you turned it off thermal inertia makes the metal parts rise their temp. because the cooling system stopped. Did you know the F1 one engines before the 2 races per engine after a hard run couldn't be turned off WITHOUT additional cooling? If they did they'd seize as all the expansion rates are calculated for a specific operating temperature and heatsoaking would make the pistons expand beyond clearance.
#11
I'm for NOT opening the hood. I heard an explanation which convvinced me and I never did it again.
As you know the fan can operate long after the car is turned off and its triggered by a temp sensor on the upper section of the engine compartment which closes the circuit at 75ºC. The fan will push the air from top to bottom which is from the colder to the hotter part (headers, turbo's, exhaust, etc) of the the engine compartment. If you open the lid convection will naturally make the heated air surrounding the headers, turbo's, etc.) rising and literally cook the hoses, sensors, plastic parts, etc.
I first heard this from "1999PORSCHE" (which I haven't heard from in a long time) and after that my research seemed to comfirm this.
As you know the fan can operate long after the car is turned off and its triggered by a temp sensor on the upper section of the engine compartment which closes the circuit at 75ºC. The fan will push the air from top to bottom which is from the colder to the hotter part (headers, turbo's, exhaust, etc) of the the engine compartment. If you open the lid convection will naturally make the heated air surrounding the headers, turbo's, etc.) rising and literally cook the hoses, sensors, plastic parts, etc.
I first heard this from "1999PORSCHE" (which I haven't heard from in a long time) and after that my research seemed to comfirm this.
#12
Originally Posted by kiko
I'm for NOT opening the hood. I heard an explanation which convvinced me and I never did it again.
As you know the fan can operate long after the car is turned off and its triggered by a temp sensor on the upper section of the engine compartment which closes the circuit at 75ºC. The fan will push the air from top to bottom which is from the colder to the hotter part (headers, turbo's, exhaust, etc) of the the engine compartment. If you open the lid convection will naturally make the heated air surrounding the headers, turbo's, etc.) rising and literally cook the hoses, sensors, plastic parts, etc.
I first heard this from "1999PORSCHE" (which I haven't heard from in a long time) and after that my research seemed to comfirm this.
As you know the fan can operate long after the car is turned off and its triggered by a temp sensor on the upper section of the engine compartment which closes the circuit at 75ºC. The fan will push the air from top to bottom which is from the colder to the hotter part (headers, turbo's, exhaust, etc) of the the engine compartment. If you open the lid convection will naturally make the heated air surrounding the headers, turbo's, etc.) rising and literally cook the hoses, sensors, plastic parts, etc.
I first heard this from "1999PORSCHE" (which I haven't heard from in a long time) and after that my research seemed to comfirm this.
#13
Do you still need the 1-2 minute cool down after a casual highway drive where you're not in the boost? Do the turbos still spin at cruising speeds with the boost simply bled off or do the turbos not work hard and get hot during a casual drive?
#14
Originally Posted by gobble
Do you still need the 1-2 minute cool down after a casual highway drive where you're not in the boost? Do the turbos still spin at cruising speeds with the boost simply bled off or do the turbos not work hard and get hot during a casual drive?
Hey you have to cool down those turbochargers for at least 1 minute. Everytime, every condition, every situation. It is the instant heat transfer of 700 plus degrees that cooks the turbine side seal.
Last edited by wross996TT; 07-25-2007 at 07:39 PM.
#15
Always curious about this cool down period....
Why casual driving (low strain and < 2500rpm certainly without turbos engaged) one would do in a residential area just before driving into the garage would not count in the cool down period?
Wouldn't this help the turbos cooling down (oil flowing, air flowing, turbos not generating heat)?
Can someone explain in more detail...
Fortunately, those with cabs get to feel like they are actively doing something (i.e., watching the top close) instead of just fiddling while waiting for the cool down.
Why casual driving (low strain and < 2500rpm certainly without turbos engaged) one would do in a residential area just before driving into the garage would not count in the cool down period?
Wouldn't this help the turbos cooling down (oil flowing, air flowing, turbos not generating heat)?
Can someone explain in more detail...
Fortunately, those with cabs get to feel like they are actively doing something (i.e., watching the top close) instead of just fiddling while waiting for the cool down.