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Old 11-08-2006, 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by scotty slc
If anyone would be interested in renting me there AX-22 or driftbox, I could get my cars #'s up..... Please PM me....

My car is only a Techart 510 package w/ evo-vflow..... I wanted to get data before the UM K16/24 ZC w/UM full stage 2 programming is ordered....
Scott, I have lent mine out several times... it is being used now. You are welcome to use it when it returns. I hope you would post the data even if it does not meet your expectations. Kevin
 
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Originally Posted by LUIS95993
Serious question. Would this not be a 50-130 run then?
Luis... no idea how the 60-130 came up as a time, but the idea is to get the best time within that speed run... so a running start is the preferred way. Kevin
 
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Originally Posted by scotty slc
I wanted to get data before the UM K16/24 ZC w/UM full stage 2 programming is ordered....
Great setup.... ask me how I know...Torque and lots of it. Kevin
 
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Originally Posted by KPG
Scott, I have lent mine out several times... it is being used now. You are welcome to use it when it returns. I hope you would post the data even if it does not meet your expectations. Kevin
I would definatly post the data.... Horsepower #'s mean little to me, I let my lap time speak for themselves Plus, may save others money as this forum has done for me...
 
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Originally Posted by KPG
Luis... no idea how the 60-130 came up as a time, but the idea is to get the best time within that speed run... so a running start is the preferred way. Kevin
But then why couldn't sombody start their "running start" at 5mph?
 
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Originally Posted by LUIS95993
But then why couldn't sombody start their "running start" at 5mph?
Some do.... it doesnt matter how you get to speed before the 60 mph mark... just the time within that 60-130 window. 1 and 2 shifts are options with in the 60-130 run as well. Kevin
 
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I was just looking at a chart Jean made of times and distances covered in the 60-130 run at Rennlist.... they look REAL good to me Scary actually....Kevin
He used my 1.2bar run of six point something seconds on some of thouse charts....I think I will go out tonight and re-verify my run....I just have to know

Originally Posted by scotty slc
I would definatly post the data.... Horsepower #'s mean little to me, I let my lap time speak for themselves Plus, may save others money as this forum has done for me...
Where are you located ??? I might be able to send you my unit..
 

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Originally Posted by KPG
Some do.... it doesnt matter how you get to speed before the 60 mph mark... just the time within that 60-130 window. 1 and 2 shifts are options with in the 60-130 run as well. Kevin
This is what confuses me though. Wouldn't car a) running from 5mph run the 60-130 faster than car b) that starts at 60mph? It seems like this test is not really accurate unless all involved are starting at the same speed, no?
 
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Originally Posted by VRAlexander
He used my 1.2bar run of six point something seconds on some of thouse charts....I think I will go out tonight and re-verify my run....I just have to know
Have to know what.... insanely fast or absurdly fast. That chart really puts power into perspective.... my car would be behind you in the 60-130 run by a football field...Wow. Kevin
 
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Originally Posted by LUIS95993
This is what confuses me though. Wouldn't car a) running from 5mph run the 60-130 faster than car b) that starts at 60mph? It seems like this test is not really accurate unless all involved are starting at the same speed, no?
Actually...no. My best time with 2 shifts was pulled from my 11.77 at 128mph run at the drag strip..I just kept my foot in it thru the traps til 130 and that produced a 8.59 60-130 run. Now I have a lot of tq and I tried the run with a 1 shift 60-130. Again, this was at the drags. I left the line easy in 1st and shifted directly to 3rd at 40 mph and had full boost around 50 and crossed the 60mph threshold with a full head of steam and only needed a quick 3-4 shift...7.93 seconds. The car covered the 60-130 with 1 shift in 1166ft and the 60-130 with 2 shifts in 1241 feet.... BTW VR was 938 ft Kevin
 
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Originally Posted by KPG
Actually...no. My best time with 2 shifts was pulled from my 11.77 at 128mph run at the drag strip..I just kept my foot in it thru the traps til 130 and that produced a 8.59 60-130 run. Now I have a lot of tq and I tried the run with a 1 shift 60-130. Again, this was at the drags. I left the line easy in 1st and shifted directly to 3rd at 40 mph and had full boost around 50 and crossed the 60mph threshold with a full head of steam and only needed a quick 3-4 shift...7.93 seconds. The car covered the 60-130 with 1 shift in 1166ft and the 60-130 with 2 shifts in 1241 feet.... BTW VR was 938 ft Kevin
So your actual best time was done with 1 shift? Is the shifting (or lack there of) a crucial part of this test?
 
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Originally Posted by LUIS95993
So your actual best time was done with 1 shift? Is the shifting (or lack there of) a crucial part of this test?
Luis, maybe you are missing the larger point... this is only for reference of a particular vehicles performance. Yes, a shift is .4-.5 seconds, but not every car would benefit from a 1 shift. My car does better with the one shift because it has a very broad tq curve, whereas others may not benefit. The reasoning behind this run is that it totally removes any launch or traction issues... and to an extent the driver as well... all motor. Kevin
 
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Originally Posted by KPG
Luis, maybe you are missing the larger point... this is only for reference of a particular vehicles performance. Yes, a shift is .4-.5 seconds, but not every car would benefit from a 1 shift. My car does better with the one shift because it has a very broad tq curve, whereas others may not benefit. The reasoning behind this run is that it totally removes any launch or traction issues... and to an extent the driver as well... all motor. Kevin
Kevin, I am just trying to understand a test that seems (in my confused opinion) to have several different variables that can affect the outcome and times. When similar vehilces are being tested (Ie 996TT's and GT2's) wouldn't the speed one starts at make a difference in the 60-130? (I know you explained it before) but I am still not getting it. If somebody starts their 60-130 right at 60 (Mashing the pedal like Jean said) the car is surely going to run a slower time than a car starting at say 10mph.
 
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Originally Posted by LUIS95993
Kevin, I am just trying to understand a test that seems (in my confused opinion) to have several different variables that can affect the outcome and times. When similar vehilces are being tested (Ie 996TT's and GT2's) wouldn't the speed one starts at make a difference in the 60-130? (I know you explained it before) but I am still not getting it. If somebody starts their 60-130 right at 60 (Mashing the pedal like Jean said) the car is surely going to run a slower time than a car starting at say 10mph.
I will be back in a couple minutes...I am getting a graph together to show it more clearly..
 
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Luis. 6Speed will not let me upload this graph, but it shows that during the 11.77 128mph launch and the 1-3-4 shift with the lazy launch..the lines enter the graph at the same time and speed... 60 mph is 60mph... it is simply a measure between two MPH points. Kevin
 


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