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Old 11-26-2006 | 10:49 PM
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Gt2 with Stage 1 or 2 vs 997 Turbo

I have both a 997 turbo and a gt2. I am thinking of selling one. The 997 turbo is faster but I was wondering what it would take mod wise to equal the feel/times of the 997 turbo? Would the stage 1 or stage 2 do it?

Thanks for the help

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Stage 2 should take care of it. Stage 4 is where you will eventually end up.
 
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Is this the package I should be looking at? ? on some though.

K&N air filter
free flow exhaust with or without new headers?
re-mapping of the ECU
EVO Flow
billet divert valves?
Hose kit?

Thanks again
 
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Sounds like a pretty good list.
 
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The GT2 is a real keeper in my book. Do an ECU, diverter valves and an exhaust and you're set on the GT2.
 
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I have the following minimal engine modifications:

GIAC controller (hammer program) with stock, 91 and 100 octane programs.
Europipe stage II quiet
Diverter valves
BMC filter

My GT2 is substantially faster than stock and a 997 Turbo. I ran 30-100 against a buddy and repeatedly put him down by 2 to 6 car lengths (pending who launched first).

The 997 Turbo is certainly a better everyday car. But given you list of cars I would keep the GT2, long term it is a much better keeper than the 997 Turbo.

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Originally Posted by jd18509
I have both a 997 turbo and a gt2. I am thinking of selling one. The 997 turbo is faster but I was wondering what it would take mod wise to equal the feel/times of the 997 turbo? Would the stage 1 or stage 2 do it?

Thanks for the help

Doug
just sell the vette and old m3.
 
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Woooh,

You have both car than you must know...

Just comparing numbers it seems the GT2 should be faster. I guess it depends a little on how you drive. Low end torque for sure speaks for the 997, the weight is certainly in favor of the GT2.

Was there ever a race recorded between the 2 cars?

GT2
3175lbs, 461hp @ 5.7k, 457lb @ 4500

997tt
3495lbs, 480hp @ 6k, 457lb @ 1950
 
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Originally Posted by z8cw
Woooh,

You have both car than you must know...

Just comparing numbers it seems the GT2 should be faster. I guess it depends a little on how you drive. Low end torque for sure speaks for the 997, the weight is certainly in favor of the GT2.

Was there ever a race recorded between the 2 cars?

GT2
3175lbs, 461hp @ 5.7k, 457lb @ 4500

997tt
3495lbs, 480hp @ 6k, 457lb @ 1950
I agree, GT2 should be faster.
The drivetrain loss on the 997tt is huge.
 
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My stage 2 TT (K16) ran head to head with 997TT, I believe you just need new program with your GT2 to out run 997TT.
 
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I'm surprised you are saying your 997TT is faster. Have you raced them head-to-head, or you judging it only by feel? The 997TT will 'feel' faster since it makes more torque earlier, but from a roll (as has been said), they should be very close..with the advantage going to the lighter, more efficient GT2.
 

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Originally Posted by Divexxtreme
I'm surprised you are saying your 997TT is faster. Have you raced them head-to-head, or you judging it only by feel? The 997TT will 'feel' faster since it makes more torque earlier, but from a roll (as has been said), they should be very close..with the advantage going to the lighter, more efficient GT2.
Yes, it just feels faster. I have not put them head to head. Rolling start to 60, 80 or a 100 the 997 seems faster.
 
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Originally Posted by supercup
I have the following minimal engine modifications:

GIAC controller (hammer program) with stock, 91 and 100 octane programs.
Europipe stage II quiet
Diverter valves
BMC filter

My GT2 is substantially faster than stock and a 997 Turbo. I ran 30-100 against a buddy and repeatedly put him down by 2 to 6 car lengths (pending who launched first).

The 997 Turbo is certainly a better everyday car. But given you list of cars I would keep the GT2, long term it is a much better keeper than the 997 Turbo.

JCM
Does the ECU programming rasie the redline? I keep bouncing off the rev limiter.
 
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Does the ECU programming rasie the redline? I keep bouncing off the rev limiter.
My flash raised it to 7000.
 
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Originally Posted by jd18509
Is this the package I should be looking at? ? on some though.

K&N air filter
free flow exhaust with or without new headers?
re-mapping of the ECU
EVO Flow
billet divert valves?
Hose kit?

Thanks again
You can keep your stock headers. They are good to 600 HP. Exchanging them for a set of ported and ceramic coated OEM headers would be a bonus. You need to add an exhaust to your list. I feel Europipe is the best choice.

At this point you would be ready for a stage 4 flash.
 


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