My Protomotive Monster is done: 871 rwhp@1.5 bars
#226
Originally Posted by dgussin1
that is a whole lot of flow! What do stock heads flow?
#229
here is the difference:
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Last edited by markski@markskituning; 12-10-2006 at 05:47 AM.
#231
Originally Posted by cjv
The turbo heads have smaller ports and valve sizes are 32 and 35 mm. Then you have GT3 street, GT3 World Cup or Cup heads and then GT3R heads. I do not know the spec on the GT3 Street heads. The GT3 Cup and R heads have the same ports . The valves on the Cup heads are 35.5 and 41.0 mm while the R heads are 36.4 and 42.0 mm.
Originally Posted by cjv
If memory serves me correct the stock heads flow about 260 cfm at 28 psi.
I suspect Markski's heads flow north of 350 cfm (perhaps well north).
Its all about head work!!!
Craig
Last edited by Craig; 12-10-2006 at 04:35 PM.
#232
Originally Posted by Craig
My valves are in between stock and GT3 spec . . . 39 mm intake and 34 mm exhaust (made by Ferrea).
My heads flow 324 cfm at 28 psi.
I suspect Markski's heads flow north of 350 cfm (perhaps well north).
Its all about head work!!!
Craig
My heads flow 324 cfm at 28 psi.
I suspect Markski's heads flow north of 350 cfm (perhaps well north).
Its all about head work!!!
Craig
Just as a comparison, our heads flow tested at 362 cfm @ 25 psi. If you convert to 28 psi they would flow additional cfm's.
#233
All I know is that Todd said that these heads he got were the neatest things he has seen in a long time...
I just took it out and OMG- bet. 2 to 3K this thing has so much TQ...
The 996 naturally aspirate cars have the same effect and produce
great low speed torque due to that. The camshaft actually follows the
throttle plate. As you press it down, it advances the cam for that nice
torquey feel, then as the rpms climb, it retards them for the high rpm power stuff...
markski
I just took it out and OMG- bet. 2 to 3K this thing has so much TQ...
The 996 naturally aspirate cars have the same effect and produce
great low speed torque due to that. The camshaft actually follows the
throttle plate. As you press it down, it advances the cam for that nice
torquey feel, then as the rpms climb, it retards them for the high rpm power stuff...
markski
__________________
2001 996TT 3.6L and stock ECU
9.66 seconds @ 147.76 mph 1/4 mile click to view
160 mph @ 9.77 seconds in 1/4 mile click to view
50% OFF ON PORSCHE ECU TUNING BLACK FRIDAY SPECIAL
2001 996TT 3.6L and stock ECU
9.66 seconds @ 147.76 mph 1/4 mile click to view
160 mph @ 9.77 seconds in 1/4 mile click to view
50% OFF ON PORSCHE ECU TUNING BLACK FRIDAY SPECIAL
#234
Originally Posted by cjv
Craig,
Just as a comparison, our heads flow tested at 362 cfm @ 25 psi. If you convert to 28 psi they would flow additional cfm's.
Just as a comparison, our heads flow tested at 362 cfm @ 25 psi. If you convert to 28 psi they would flow additional cfm's.
Craig
#235
Originally Posted by MARKSKI
All I know is that Todd said that these heads he got were the neatest things he has seen in a long time...
I just took it out and OMG- bet. 2 to 3K this thing has so much TQ...
The 996 naturally aspirate cars have the same effect and produce
great low speed torque due to that. The camshaft actually follows the
throttle plate. As you press it down, it advances the cam for that nice
torquey feel, then as the rpms climb, it retards them for the high rpm power stuff...
markski
I just took it out and OMG- bet. 2 to 3K this thing has so much TQ...
The 996 naturally aspirate cars have the same effect and produce
great low speed torque due to that. The camshaft actually follows the
throttle plate. As you press it down, it advances the cam for that nice
torquey feel, then as the rpms climb, it retards them for the high rpm power stuff...
markski
Craig
#236
Originally Posted by Craig
Very exciting Markski. Your car is a tremendous accomplishment!!!!!
Craig
Craig
thanks Craig,
markski
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2001 996TT 3.6L and stock ECU
9.66 seconds @ 147.76 mph 1/4 mile click to view
160 mph @ 9.77 seconds in 1/4 mile click to view
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2001 996TT 3.6L and stock ECU
9.66 seconds @ 147.76 mph 1/4 mile click to view
160 mph @ 9.77 seconds in 1/4 mile click to view
50% OFF ON PORSCHE ECU TUNING BLACK FRIDAY SPECIAL
#237
Originally Posted by Craig
I am a bit confused Chad. On April 25, 2006, you posted that your heads flowed 327 cfm at 25 inches of water: https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...97&postcount=5 . Now you post that your heads flow 362 cfm at 25 psi (I assume that is the same as 25 inches of water). Have you ported your heads further in the interim and/or further increased the size of your valves?
Craig
Craig
The final cam grid exceeds the .550 lift that we tested back then (July 2006). In addition, those July tests were done with NA durations, the durations are now profiled for a turbo motor. This is where the additional flow is derrived. The port configeration has not changed other than mild touch up on the intake ports and micro polishing the combustion chambers.
Last edited by cjv; 12-10-2006 at 06:20 PM.
#238
Originally Posted by MARKSKI
Unfortunately I'm not really that savvy when it comes to this kind of work... I can only imagine the complexity that goes into our motors.... I'm sure I only touched the surface if this tuning stuff... all I can say is WOW...
thanks Craig,
markski
thanks Craig,
markski
Craig
Last edited by Craig; 12-10-2006 at 05:20 PM.
#239
Originally Posted by Craig
Lol! On the scale of savvyness relating to our motors, you possess a PhD compared to my thimble ful of knowledge.
Craig
Craig
here is what Todd came up with theoretically at 14 psi vs actual. Looks like, according to him, that the dip is not that much of a dip between 5.5 to 6.5 k as the the huge bump at 5K rpms... we only have a small flat spot at 7K. he says that can be messaged out with dyno time...
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2001 996TT 3.6L and stock ECU
9.66 seconds @ 147.76 mph 1/4 mile click to view
160 mph @ 9.77 seconds in 1/4 mile click to view
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2001 996TT 3.6L and stock ECU
9.66 seconds @ 147.76 mph 1/4 mile click to view
160 mph @ 9.77 seconds in 1/4 mile click to view
50% OFF ON PORSCHE ECU TUNING BLACK FRIDAY SPECIAL
Last edited by markski@markskituning; 12-10-2006 at 05:31 PM.
#240
Originally Posted by cjv
Craig,
The final cam grid exceeds the .550 lift that we tested back then. This is where the additional flow is derrived.
The final cam grid exceeds the .550 lift that we tested back then. This is where the additional flow is derrived.
This points out the problem in comparing head flow numbers. The parameters must be consistent.
Craig