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Old 01-18-2007 | 10:26 PM
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Great numbers!
Just for a friendly comparison, how does this setup (or the upcoming 3b setup) compare with protomotive's (ex. Markski's)?
I know they are different tunings with different goals overall but with the same boost (say 1.3bar) and within the same rpm range (2k-7k), how do think these 2 stack up?
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Old 01-18-2007 | 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by geetee
Great numbers!
Just for a friendly comparison, how does this setup (or the upcoming 3b setup) compare with protomotive's (ex. Markski's)?
I know they are different tunings with different goals overall but with the same boost (say 1.3bar) and within the same rpm range (2k-7k), how do think these 2 stack up?
Thanks.
Markski's car is a whole different animal, come Spring it will distance itself from almost everything....an apples to oranges comparison. This is an off the shelf kit that shouldnt be compared with a one -off such as that.. Kevin
 
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Originally Posted by geetee
Great numbers!
Just for a friendly comparison, how does this setup (or the upcoming 3b setup) compare with protomotive's (ex. Markski's)?
I know they are different tunings with different goals overall but with the same boost (say 1.3bar) and within the same rpm range (2k-7k), how do think these 2 stack up?
Thanks.

The numbers for three 3b arent out yet, but beware of the Killer B's .

As far as Marks car, you cant compare, that is a one off car! but it would be nice for comparisons . Besides Marks car will destroy anything above 160,
than when the xtra HP comes in to play.
 

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Yea, Markski's car is a true beast that is for sure. But I just wonder if someone could do a comparison with same boost (say 1 or 1.3 bar) within same rpms(2k -7k rpms).
With the extra boost (1.5 bar with protomotive) and with the extra 1200 rpms and of course the extra power within the 2000-7000rpm's, there is no doubt protomotive will destroy.
But not everyone can afford the protomotive treatment.

How about a comparison with the evo gt700 vs. UMW 3a vs. scott's proto 600? These all 3 are similar in price and all use stock internals right? I know all 3 were done on different dynos and different conditions but I think it would be a give us a good idea.
 
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Kevin,

Happy Birthday! Again, good luck and enjoy the 3B.
 
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Originally Posted by geetee

How about a comparison with the evo gt700 vs. UMW 3a vs. scott's proto 600? These all 3 are similar in price and all use stock internals right? I know all 3 were done on different dynos and different conditions but I think it would be a give us a good idea.

Thats correct, but keep in mind that this will just become another numbers war. We need three cars at the same time, same dyno...to be legit.
 
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How about a trap speed comparison or 60-130 comparison
 
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How about a trap speed comparison or 60-130 comparison

Ah, now your talking!! KPG where are you, do your magic .
 
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Originally Posted by geetee
Yea, Markski's car is a true beast that is for sure. But I just wonder if someone could do a comparison with same boost (say 1 or 1.3 bar) within same rpms(2k -7k rpms).
With the extra boost (1.5 bar with protomotive) and with the extra 1200 rpms and of course the extra power within the 2000-7000rpm's, there is no doubt protomotive will destroy.
But not everyone can afford the protomotive treatment.

How about a comparison with the evo gt700 vs. UMW 3a vs. scott's proto 600? These all 3 are similar in price and all use stock internals right? I know all 3 were done on different dynos and different conditions but I think it would be a give us a good idea.
3A and Scott's Proto( which is a 700 BTW) are roughly the same price..low 20's. GT700 is a tick under 28K. There are no 60-130's that I know of for Proto 600's or 700's... I know you keep coming back to Mark,but I am not going to bite... He has posted his dyno numbers, anyone can look at them. As for the extra 1200rpms...its huge Hopefully we can all get some good numbers when the weather improves. Kevin
 
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Old 01-18-2007 | 11:23 PM
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Kevin,

Happy Birthday! Again, good luck and enjoy the 3B.
Thanks John, hopefully you can join us in OK.... Kevin
 
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Thanks, It's a very long way for me, but I am seriously considering it.
 
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So does the 3a kit make 590awfpt and 640awhp?

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Old 01-19-2007 | 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by jags911tt
So does the 3a kit make 590awfpt and 640awhp?

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Jags, the higher one is race fuel the other sheet is pump fuel. I think 720ish pump and 780ish race fuel, but the big tq down low is still there regardless of fuel. Wait til I put on heads and rods Kevin
 
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Jags, the higher one is race fuel the other sheet is pump fuel. I think 720ish pump and 780ish race fuel, but the big tq down low is still there regardless of fuel. Wait til I put on heads and rods Kevin
Nice - but you didnt answer my question - is it all wheel? Does the dynopack measure power at all four wheels?

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Nice - but you didnt answer my question - is it all wheel? Does the dynopack measure power at all four wheels?

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Sorry Jags, I misunderstood the question...Yes it is AWD numbers
 


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