Originally Posted by SMR

I would like to have known that before i installed it, i did the installation by my self on the garage floor, my lift was ucciped..

Originally Posted by topgun

Jags, keep in mind that what sets this kit apart is the fact of the power under the curve, comes on quicker & sustains itself.

As far as that much power with stock internals, they are plenty on this forum running large amounts of boost making 650-680 to the wheels. I spoke to Suman a few days ago he put down 680 w/ 2 bars on his 700, to the wheels is it recommended? hell no! but thats what he wants, thats his choice.

Just the fact that these numbers where attainable at 1.2-1.3 bars is amazing & has to be credited to eficient turbo's & Good tuning!...tom

Originally Posted by vincentdds

FYI if needed in the future. Here's baseline Ruf550 before and after UMW setup.

Originally Posted by joetwint

Agreed,I am gonna try some baseline runs with the Zo6 this weekend.Maybe I can e-mail them to you and you can tell me if they are legit?Then I can see the difference after its tuned.

Originally Posted by jags911tt

Tom,

Im not concerned about what others are running with stock motors. The 3a kit is being advertised as a setup that does not need a motor build, nevertheless with 800hp a motor build should be required. Kevin from UMW himself is saying that 650 crank hp is in the red zone and 700hp is pushing it.

Basically this dyno sheet is not representative of what a 3a kit will be producing.

Jag

Jag

Originally Posted by jags911tt

Tom,

Im not concerned about what others are running with stock motors. The 3a kit is being advertised as a setup that does not need a motor build, nevertheless with 800hp a motor build should be required. Kevin from UMW himself is saying that 650 crank hp is in the red zone and 700hp is pushing it.

Basically this dyno sheet is not representative of what a 3a kit will be producing.

Jag

Jag

Originally Posted by vincentdds

This is exactly the reason why Kevin the owner of UMW never post any dyno graphs himself. Furthermore, he does not get into the horse power game nor does he ever markets his packages with ridiculous claims or numbers.. People are just so self-indulged over the dyno numbers and tend to forget the true values of a tuning package which is performance.

Jags, it had mentioned many times that the above dynograph is result of ONE of Kevin's 3A tuning file. As you already know, a particular tuning package can have various tuning files with various safety perimeters. This particular one represents the limit or the maximum output of his 3A tuning package.

Originally Posted by WOODTSTER

RE: DMK's 60-130 time, the numbers and graph does not add up from what I have heard,
several people said the graph was impossible ??? nothing to do with tuners.



MK

Originally Posted by KPG

Joe, thanks for the good words. Keep in mind this is SilverSurfers car, mine is still getting ready for the B stage. As for Marty's comments, they are his own and he can speak to them.As for DMK's run, here is how I see it. I will say once again, I am no expert on these Dbox/Pbox files... yes I have a better understanding than most plus some software that others do not have. When Todd Z originally submitted runs there were errors that were not of his making. He had an older version of the firmware that was causing errors in satellite dropout and time/sample errors.He updated the firmware and ran the 60-130 again with a 6.15sec run. I look at slope..was he going downhill an excessive amount? No , it was uphill. Did he have sat dropouts? NO. Did he have time sample errors? NO. Did his avg G's over the run look out of order compared to everyother file on my laptop? NO. The question comes to the shifts, or lack of them. The run was clearly done with no shifts. Can a stock gearbox do a 60-130 in 3rd.NO. Mark has determined that his 8200rpm car can only do 127 in 3rd. Therefore this must have been done in 4th or have non stock gears or ring and pinion. Others have claimed there isnt enough power to do that in 4th with stock gears. I know nothing of DMK's car and its mods. I will admit my limitations, I dont know enough about gearing and wheel thrust to say with any certainty if this is correct. This I do know: The car trapped over 138 and that is not in dispute....it is over 700RWHP according to Todd Z...it is relatively light weight...Common sense will tell you this car is clearly capable of the run. The last thing I am going to get involved in is telling somebody their run is no good because I or someone else thinks it is too fast. I checked the same things on DMK's run as anyother and it passed. These 1/4 standings and 60-130 runs are in the spirit of good fun and competition, once they become something else...I am out of here. Hope to see some great numbers from your car in the future Later, Kevin

Originally Posted by DMK

Nice Package, For my car there where many runs i think 5-6 that the car ran the same 60 -130, keep in mind the body of this car is not stock which does help alittle with drag and it sits on the ground, besides my weight reduction. Car is very strong and it ran up 130's all day at the track in scottsdale. Which I forget how many people seen the times posted. Todd Z's car was a monster but I have less of a spool problem. For my mods yes it is a true gt700 package just tuned to the limit before BOOM! Almost forgot on one of the Runs Todd almost killed my car spinning out!!

Originally Posted by iLLM3

Joe where are you doing this and when, please let me know, i'll meet up