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UMW Stage 3A Zero Clearance Breaks New Ground: Dyno Sheet

There has been a lot of talk lately about alternatives in the 700+ HP category, and I think these new turbos will become the benchmark. These are the stage 3A turbos running on race gas at <1.3 bar. The 1.3 TB shutdown has not been removed and will protect against any overboost situation. These turbos have no compromise, huge TQ down low and incredible HP up high. This dyno sheet was run on Kevin's DynaPac dyno that he uses. To those who may question this type of dyno, keep in mind this is the exact unit Todd Knighton at Protomotive just purchased for his shop. For those who are wondering what STG3B will accomplish...Imagine this power with rods and high flowing heads and a 7500 Rpm redline...For 28K....Enjoy
Rpms...Wheel Tq...FWtq........WheelHP...FWHP
2000...328...........400..........125..........152
2500...365...........445..........175..........213
3000...470...........573..........262..........319
3500...550...........670..........375..........457
4000...580...........707..........450..........548
4500...590...........719..........500..........610
5000...580...........707..........550..........670
5500...520...........634..........540..........658
6000...500...........607..........575..........701
6500...495...........603..........620..........758
7000...480...........585..........640..........780
This setup produces 400FWTQ at only 2000 rpm but also makes 780HP up high. All conversion figures are with an 18% loss since this is AWHP and TQ.Looks like you can have your cake and eat it too ....makes me want my 3B that much more...Kevin
 
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WOW!!!! Thats AWHP? Holy SH*@ and at only 1.3 Bar! Amazing.......
 
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WOW!!!! Thats AWHP? Holy SH*@ and at only 1.3 Bar! Amazing.......
Just wait til we run this with 100octane and rods and heads ...Kevin
 
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I heard about this setup and know there's the pudding...
 
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Very nice, also was this 4 wheel HP or rwd (edit: read its AWHP, that is impressive!!!)? And didnt you say it was already on race gas?

I was under the impression dynapak's read the highest numbers. Even more so then dynojets. But i heard dynapak's are one of the best for tuning, you can hold set rpm's etc...
 

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That is very very impressive, congratulations on another really good
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Ok...very very interesting, what would it cost to convert my EVOMS GT700 kit to this setup and the benefits would be?

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Very nice, also was this 4 wheel HP or rwd? And didnt you say they ran race gas?

I was under the impression dynapak's read the highest numbers. Even more so then dynojets. But i heard dynapak's are one of the best for tuning, you can hold set rpm's etc...
Any Dyno can be manipulated...these numbers are with no correction factors...The DynaPac is accurate...both Todd K and Kevin use them...Here is the dyno of a Ruf 550 and the 3A on pump gas...The Ruf comes out to 550 on the numbers...This is AWHP and AWTQ...Kevin
 
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Again that is impressive. So whats it cost for a setup like this and what does it include?

I noticed with race gas you made about 50HP more, was there a different setting or just put in the gas?
 
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Ok...very very interesting, what would it cost to convert my EVOMS GT700 kit to this setup and the benefits would be?

Cheers,

Ben
Ben , stg3A is 21K but includes the EP exhaust and the CF intake...3B is the same with rods, head studs and heads with GT3 springs and titanium retainers to allow a 7500 rpm redline..New MAF solution as well. Custom CNC'ed MAF housing so no blown MAFS...The new MAF is included in A+B...Kevin
 
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Again that is impressive. So whats it cost for a setup like this and what does it include?

I noticed with race gas you made about 50HP more, was there a different setting or just put in the gas?
There is a separate file for race gas...the Pocket Programmer will hold 8..Kevin
 
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impressive numbers, power is useable throughout the entire band and at demand. out of curiousity, what turbos are they? (k16/mods, k24/mods?

keep up the good work, you never seize to amaze us!
 
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impressive numbers, power is useable throughout the entire band and at demand. out of curiousity, what turbos are they? (k16/mods, k24/mods?

keep up the good work, you never seize to amaze us!
Andrew...I am not that Kevin, just another Kevin. As for the turbos, well they are big hybrids...very big. Flexible enough that several of us are using the same turbos for our 3B kit which will be more power and tq sooner than this setup....Kevin G
 
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KPG, you've been holding out on me .

Guys, this is just a tease like Kevin stated when the heads go on & you can rev to 7400 rpm .
 
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KPG, you've been holding out on me .

Guys, this is just a tease like Kevin stated when the heads go on & you can rev to 7400 rpm .
Holding out? You cant imagine the negotiations to get this sheet released. 3B isnt getting posted til your car is up and running...Kevin BTW, today is my birthday...I had to post it
 


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