Tial turbos, anyone?
#46
02-28-2007, 11:50 PM
Originally Posted by Highhats
I have the disco potatoes (gt700) Tial turbos and lets just say 24lbs of boost and race gas, these turbos launch you. You get full boost by 4400rpms makes these turbos absolutely lagless. an easy 650whp+. Tialsport- you guys figure anythign out with the gt32 turbos with k24 hot sides. thanks
-Suman
PS watercooling is a must!
-Suman
PS watercooling is a must!
#50
03-01-2007, 02:29 PM
Originally Posted by SallyMobile
The purpose of watercooling is not to keep the CHRA cool when running. It's to keep the oil from coking when shut off. This is why the hose runs uphill to turbo and uphill away. The boiling causes a thermal siphon to pull the water through until the temperature cools to the point water no longer boils.
Again, I agree watercooling is ideal. Will not connecting it cause things to fry instantly? I haven't seen this to be the case.
people are probably getting away with not using the water cooling (on the gt28R's or smaller) because they arn't running high boost/boosting for long periods of time...be advised though, we and other Garrett PD's will not warranty a turbo that has been run without the water cooling hooked up.
my point is, if it has water ports, USE them, you do not want your ***** (ball bearings) slapping together
Last edited by TiALSport; 03-01-2007 at 02:32 PM.
#51
03-01-2007, 02:31 PM
Smart move I did it! Don't screw around Watercool them!
Originally Posted by TiALSport
on a BB turbo wastercooling is mainly for keeping the cage around the ball bearings from melting (it's a high grade plastic). It does serve the purpose of cooling the center and keeping the oil from coking, but that is a secondary befefit, it was the main reason on journal bearing turbos (which really isn't an issue with fully synthetic oil today)
people are probably getting away with not using the water cooling (on the gt28R's or smaller) because they arn't running high boost/boosting for long periods of time...be advised though, we and other Garrett PD's will not warranty a turbo that has been run without the water cooling hooked up.
my point is, if it has water ports, USE them, you do not want your ***** (ball bearings) slapping together
people are probably getting away with not using the water cooling (on the gt28R's or smaller) because they arn't running high boost/boosting for long periods of time...be advised though, we and other Garrett PD's will not warranty a turbo that has been run without the water cooling hooked up.
my point is, if it has water ports, USE them, you do not want your ***** (ball bearings) slapping together
#52
03-01-2007, 02:31 PM
Originally Posted by Kraftwerk
How would I tell the difference between a GT28R and a GT28RS? I'm pretty sure I have the RS. This is what mine looks like:
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03-01-2007, 04:42 PM
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I agree that if the coolant ports are there, then they should be used unless the vehicle's coolant system cannot deal with the extra heat. I looked at a friends EVO GT700 and the CHRA did not have coolant lines hooked up, although it did have the ports. Stated above, that kit has GT32 turbos. It was installed by an authorized EVO shop, so I assume this is common practice. Does anyone know of any EVO turbo failures? I have not heard about any.
#54
03-01-2007, 06:10 PM
Originally Posted by roadsterdoc
I agree that if the coolant ports are there, then they should be used unless the vehicle's coolant system cannot deal with the extra heat. I looked at a friends EVO GT700 and the CHRA did not have coolant lines hooked up, although it did have the ports. Stated above, that kit has GT32 turbos. It was installed by an authorized EVO shop, so I assume this is common practice. Does anyone know of any EVO turbo failures? I have not heard about any.
#55
03-01-2007, 06:48 PM
Originally Posted by roadsterdoc
I agree that if the coolant ports are there, then they should be used unless the vehicle's coolant system cannot deal with the extra heat. I looked at a friends EVO GT700 and the CHRA did not have coolant lines hooked up, although it did have the ports. Stated above, that kit has GT32 turbos. It was installed by an authorized EVO shop, so I assume this is common practice. Does anyone know of any EVO turbo failures? I have not heard about any.
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03-02-2007, 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by TiALSport
GT32's are not ball bearing
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03-02-2007, 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by SallyMobile
The vehicle cooling systems are never unable to deal with the extra heat. The extra heat from watercooling your turbo is miniscule. It's very high temp, but very low volume & flow. A warm day will make a bigger difference to the overall cooling system than the addition of watercooling.
Last edited by roadsterdoc; 03-02-2007 at 09:24 PM.
#58
03-02-2007, 08:48 PM
what is the maxium horsepower the GT 700 can produce?? Stephen at imagine auto sayed his GT800 plus kit made 697 horsepower at the wheel?? Has anyone else seen these horsepower and at what boost..
cheers robert
cheers robert
#59
03-02-2007, 09:51 PM
I didn't say it, Excellence wrote the article on it and was there for the dyno, Also European Car did the same. Suman and Paul Rubin both made similar HP
#60
03-02-2007, 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by TiALSport
my point is, if it has water ports, USE them, you do not want your ***** (ball bearings) slapping together
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