I think as far as "Porsche-Tax" goes there is some things that are a little over done. Though I believe the tune is about right for the amount of work that goes into all of it. Most people do not realize that the amount of work put into most tunes for a car like these requires a lot of work. Have most people ever looked at how much tuning cost for a car with a BigStuff 3, FAST, Motec, Electramotive, etc..

Like exhaust though I do kinda agree it is well a little over priced. The exhaust on a Vette, Viper, etc have just as many if not more bends. Like Corsa they have some of the loudest exhaust and no drone. Not many of the exhaust here can even offer that and the Corsa is half the price. Though the Porsche performance world is not as big of a market so the price can be whatever someone wants it to be. Turbo prices are about the same as you would expect for any car. Just like most of the other parts.

 

Most of the tuners have a license and or buy the program individually for a specific car... liek urs for example... so if u buy a $2500 flash Im guessing they may be making 40% of that... not the full amount. If you think this is expensive try a Ferrari or Lambo ecu flashes... its more like $5K a flash.
I have two retail stores... I make about 30 to 40% margin... Im not the RED CROSS and neither are porsche tuners...

 

Stephen has very valid points!!

ANYONE with any business sense knows that you cannot expect people to
develop things for narrow margins and stay in business.
Stephen is sometimes higher (not usually) on products, but has alot of
service and knowledge to back it up.

Good luck at finding what you are looking for.

MK

 

Porsche Tax…..you want to see TAX, come live in Australia. Porsche Australia charge approx double the prices you get OEM parts for !!! I will gladly pay USA based pricing.

 

Say just the ECU upgrade - NO other mods (besides DV's) would this be worth it? What kind of power increase would be expected?

 

The market sets the fair price .. and people are entitled to make as much profit (or loss) as the market will bear.

Those who aren't in business for themselves should quit whining and .. if it's so easy .. go make a million by undercutting the establishment. Or else shut up ;-)

 

EXACTLY!

If you think you can do it for so much less start your own company and with your LOW prices you will make a killing!

 

don't *****, call around. i got my flash with a nice discount.

 

At 1999, a GIAC flash seemed to make some sense, but the K24 premium really feels like a rip-off, can hardly believe that the K24 map took 50% more effort to develop, or that demand is that much lower.
I guess the market must be thin, otherwise there would be more competition out there.

This said, nobody forces anyone to flash his/her car.

 

what makes it even weirder is that GIAC only charges $595 to flash the twin turbo s4

 

Guess that at 1999, let alone 2999, they would not have many customers, would they ? That's must be the P-factor.
Good thing that Ferrari and Lambo don't do turbocharged engines nowadays, flashing an ECU would probably fetch 5 figures ;-)

 

There is no Twin turbo 4S. You mean a NA 4s....
Giac needs to make money and so do the GIAC distributors/dealers... like in anything else... There are other options.... some cheaper and some more expensive.

 

Well there are just a tad more Audis running around than Porsche X50s. Not to mention they are not even close to the same Motronic version. The Audi is not even in the same league.

 

audi s4...

 

I kick myself because when I was looking at cars I almost bought an E55 but it had sold. Instead of waiting I figured man the Turbos have to be easy to mod.. I mean its a turbo car. Disconnect the ECM's boost controller, install MBC and call it a day just like the EVO/STI/etc.. lol. Boy was I wrong Now that $400 pulley sounds so much better

But atleast this car is a lot more fun to drive then a 4 door cruiser.

I do agree though this is a buisness and people are not here to lose money. In the computer industry we don't try to just give away hardware at cost.. Though as my dad has always told me.. You don't pay retail for anything, just have to know the right people