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Old 04-08-2007, 12:13 AM
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Managed to get basic control over fuel, timing and closed loop boost just this past week. Using our PROcede engine computer. Very similar to the one we've been using in the BMW 335s with good success. Still in the process of refining the tune, adding temporary overboost, sustained load boost decay, etc,. But so far, so good. Took the car to Full Function (union city, CA) and tested the car on their AWD Mustang Dyno. All results on 91oct.

Stock, it baselined at a repeatable 325whp/353lbft of torque. Then I slowly enriched on-boost AFR form 12:1-12.9:1 to 11:1-12:1. Then gradually inched up boost while adjusting timing. Most knock prone are was right around 5k rpm. Required a bit extra fuel and little less timing. Seemed like the stock car is tuned pretty aggessively here to begin with. Boost eventually settled at 14.5psi peak, tapering down to 12-13psi by 6000rpm. Power gains were okay for starters. Peak power went from 325whp to 377whp. Torque went from 353lbft to 421lbft. Judging from today's tuning session, the car will make just as much torque as you want given octane constraints. I had torque as high as 450lbft but backed it off just to play it safe. It is my car after all But it's always fun to see the front end of the car lift up on the dyno.

On the road, the car was surprisingly stable. Did some mild part throttle tweaking with good results. No hint of knock on the logs. No reduction of the knock-induced boost control coefficient. No measurable AFR lag during sudden on-boost transitions. Real nice. The only thing that I had to go back and tweak was the 4800-5100rpm range as the car transitioned from mild boost to full boost. 2 out of 5 times, it would induce knock retard. Fixed it by pulling back timing in the 5-10psi range and by adding a short term (0.5 sec) fuel enrichement.

FWIW, this is a lowish reading dyno as far as Mustang dynos go. Last week it was dyno'd stock at 350whp/370lbft under virtually identical testing conditions at EIP's Mustang dyno (Santa Clara) . That's a pretty big difference from the 325whp/353lbft it put down on FF's heart-breaker dyno today. That said, I would expect the tuned numbers to be a bit higher on EIP's dyno. But that remains to be seen. Once I finish tuning this car, I'll take it around to different dynos just for fun. Maybe even to Sac Raceway to see what she runs.

Next up: Going to install upgraded bypass valves and do some more tuning. Still working on a Sport Chrono-like temporary overboost feature as well as some other trickery that may be more trouble than its worth... lol.

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Great to see you here and making progress with your project. Hurry up and get done fidling with your stage one so you can throw a different turbo on there and let the fun really begin!
 
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There goes the neighborhood!!!!

Good to see you here, Shiv...about time someone shared their tuning in public.

Best of luck,
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There goes the neighborhood!!!!

Good to see you here, Shiv...about time someone shared their tuning in public.

Best of luck,
TomK
There goes the neighborhood? How come everyone always says that when we enter a market

Made good progress today and last night. I'll be posting up gobs of info within the next couple of days.

cpu77-- Thanks. Nice to be here. K16 maps are still being refined. Once that's all polished, K24 maps will be a cinch.

As with the BMW PROcede application, updating maps will be free and downloadable through our website. All map uploading/datalogging/diagnostics will be done through laptop, using PROcede freeware, by the end user. Never a need to ship the ECU to us. And the PROcede can also be removed with no traces. 100% reversible.

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Originally Posted by Vishnu Tuning
There goes the neighborhood? How come everyone always says that when we enter a market

Made good progress today and last night. I'll be posting up gobs of info within the next couple of days.

cpu77-- Thanks. Nice to be here. K16 maps are still being refined. Once that's all polished, K24 maps will be a cinch.

As with the BMW PROcede application, updating maps will be free and downloadable through our website. All map uploading/datalogging/diagnostics will be done through laptop, using PROcede freeware, by the end user. Never a need to ship the ECU to us.

Cheers,
shiv
Rock the boat?...Brother, you just vaporized it!!!!
There's a wind of change blowing....it's very exciting...

Be good,
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Originally Posted by Vishnu Tuning
All map uploading/datalogging/diagnostics will be done through laptop, using PROcede freeware, by the end user. Never a need to ship the ECU to us.
This I like.
 
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K24 man! Start thinking k24/18g and k16/24 too name a few BTW It's good to see a reputable tuner with experience accross the board getting involved in this niche market. I am sure with your back ground you will make others rethink the wheel a bit. Anyone who has owned a subaru or EVO should know who this guy is. Great guy builds and designs very nice stuff. Not saying there aren't some very knowledgeable and talented guys doing this already.

I thought when I sold my Subaru years ago, I would never require the Shiv's services again! I already have a favorite tuner but I may cheat a little

Once again welcome
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how about giving the end user some control over the tuning... Im sure a handful of guys would be interested...
 
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Originally Posted by Vishnu Tuning
There goes the neighborhood? How come everyone always says that when we enter a market

LOL....I don't think any of the existing tuners here are worried, but more options are always a good thing. Welcome to 6speed! Looking forward to seeing your results.
 

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I just read an article in one of the monthly auto rags or Autoweek or something about your tuning work on the 335 and I thought it said you just got a 997 TT to play with. Were they wrong about the generation or are you playing with the 997 as well.
 
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LOL....I don't think any of the existing tuners here are worried, but more options are always a good thing. Welcome to 6speed! Looking forward to seeing your results.
Welcome , i hear good things about your other tuning, goodluck and cant wait to see the results as well
 
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Been following the 335 progress on e90post, and i can't wait to see what you do with the platform. Welcome!
 
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Originally Posted by MARKSKI
how about giving the end user some control over the tuning... Im sure a handful of guys would be interested...
Absolutely. The newest version of our PROcede freeware will allow the end user to make adjustments to fuel, timing and boost independantly, at several RPM points. We are going to limit the adjustment window just to keep things safe. But it should provide plenty of flexability for custom tuning purposes.

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Originally Posted by Vishnu Tuning
Absolutely. The newest version of our PROcede freeware will allow the end user to make adjustments to fuel, timing and boost independantly, at several RPM points. We are going to limit the adjustment window just to keep things safe. But it should provide plenty of flexability for custom tuning purposes.

-shiv
Welcome aboard! Things a looking better for us Porsche owners..
 
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