Can you explain any further on how it is night and day difference between the two? I know you are very familiar with both, and I've never even driven a GT2, but if I did the suspension and RWD and a stage 3 setup wouldn't it be pretty much the same with some sound-deadening and sunroof?

 

The truth is, when a RWD turbo has a quality suspension *professionally* installed and is properly corner balanced...it handles almost identically as well as a stock GT2.

Those that have either not installed a quality suspension, or failed to have their existing suspension set up by a pro...are the ones who's cars exhibit strange handling characteristics after the RWD conversion is complete.

And yes...I've driven a GT2.

 

Scott, I ordered the LSD. I'm taking your advice, it should handle nice with the JIC's!! Are you keeping the PSM or is Todd going to delete it?

 

I'm keeping PSM. Can't imagine when I'll ever use it, though.

Be sure to let us know how you like the LSD, Tom.

 

Well what i was comparing was a stock GT2 vs a 996TT with suspension and just rwd conversion (no other suspension modifications and no lsd)

I have had great seat time in both stock for stock, and both modded to modded, my 996TT had no sunroof as well, sways, h+r coilovers you name it, plus RWD and it still felt way different from even a stock GT2.

Most people who say otherwise probably havent experienced them firsthand, the weight and feel of the steering wheel, turn in and so on, they just feel very different.. I believe a big attribution to the feel (besides weight and through the corners with acceleration) is the lack of the LSD in the 996TT, now with adding one and everything else to a 996TT i cannot comment on how it would stack up against a GT2, i believe that's a huge contribution in feel as well has lighter weight throughout the car!

 

Either that, or they had a much better balanced suspension setup installed on their turbo.

 

I agree Scott,for the type of driving I do (no rain)I have shut it off everytime I get in the car ever since I went to the GT640 kit back in 04.Once you get above 550hp @ the wheels it becomes annoying when driving hard.

 

Could be either or you are right (that is if you werent being sarcastic) .. But i can assure you mine was set up correctly.

BTW when i mention FEEL, as in they still felt totally different, this doesnt necessarily mean one handled better then the other, i mean i havent tested both back to back on a skidpad or anything, it was just from seat of the pants "feel" , so its kind of a moot point overall!

 

I wasn't being sarcastic It's just that there aren't a lot of people out there can set these cars up properly. They may claim they can...but most can't. It took the crew chief of a Porsche race team to do mine.

Correct me if I'm wrong, Martin....but isn't your car running a Moton suspension? If so...you can't possibly compare a stock GT2 suspension to your car.

I have no doubt your modded GT2 with a Moton suspension feels different/better than a stock GT2 and my car. I've driven a bone stock GT2...and it feels identical to my car.

 

Yes these cars are very sensitive to suspension setups and lots of tweaking has to be done, well at least for me. Coming from the M3 with coilovers, just by slapping them in they were amazing

And Scott yes i have Moton's.. But like i said, i had track time in my stock 996tt and then with suspension setup, lots of street driving too. My fully setup turbo compared to a stock GT2 still felt a bit different, not as nimble feeling or crisp, but the turbo was on rails and never budged, that's why its hard to go based off feel, i mean for all i know on a skidpad it could have pulled better gforces in the turns, BUT as for driver input and feel the GT2 i liked more!

What i was comparing was stock 996TT to stock GT2, 996TT with coilovers, sways, fully setup to stock GT2, even my GT2 now makes a stock GT2 feel heavy, the Moton's are insane once you get them done right, feels like a bigger Lotus Exige, no joke!

As for your car versus a stock GT2 i do not doubt it one bit that they feel similar, except for the extra road noise and so on in the GT2, i was in Tom's X50 with just JIC's and loved the way the car felt, much better then my H+R's! Its very hard to make a general statement in any case because i havent tested a turbo with each suspension, but same goes for anyone else who hasent, and especially who havent even driven a GT2! (Not in regards to you)

 

What rear sway bar was your turbo running? I'm running a GT2 rear sway and once adjusted, it makes all the difference in the world.

 

I had the GT3 sways front/rear, but them from Alex (Sharky) and set them up based on what he told me

 

So, I need a rear sway bar added along with what I am having done in order to get it right?

Also, does anyone haves recommended settings for alignment and ride height? I told the shop to shoot for GT2 ride height and do a moderate street-setup for alignment.

 

Spoke to Joetwint, he is doing this mod today! He posting pictures soon...tom

 

You should search (pss9 and gt2 ride height), ive heard that that is too low for pss9's and you will suffer.