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Old 05-24-2007 | 12:21 PM
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The car has lots of aluminum, carbon fiber and composites... and it is definitely not a pig it weights less.

It's no fat boy doing gymnastics.
....and some magnesium
 
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Originally Posted by GaryZ06
....and some magnesium
Yes, the engine cradel. Hell, it has a hydroformed aluminum frame, hand built engine with titanium con rods, makes 505 HP, weights 3100lbs and gets 28mpg.

The Z06 Fawking rocks, and appart from not having hand stitched leather interior it's a fully fawking ***** on car, nuff said, it's just a fact.

Anyone who says otherwise just has not driven one, or did not drive it where it should have been driven.

I own both. I have a fairly modded 996 Turbo S, and a Z06. I prefer the handling feel in my Turbo S and I love the Porsche experience, but the Z06 does it all, they are very comperable, vehicles, but hard to compare because they do it differently.
 
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28mpg, im assuming it turns off half the cylinders ?
 
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Yes, the engine cradel. Hell, it has a hydroformed aluminum frame, hand built engine with titanium con rods, makes 505 HP, weights 3100lbs and gets 28mpg.

The Z06 Fawking rocks, and appart from not having hand stitched leather interior it's a fully fawking ***** on car, nuff said, it's just a fact.

Anyone who says otherwise just has not driven one, or did not drive it where it should have been driven.

I own both. I have a fairly modded 996 Turbo S, and a Z06. I prefer the handling feel in my Turbo S and I love the Porsche experience, but the Z06 does it all, they are very comperable, vehicles, but hard to compare because they do it differently.
Plus the roof structure(frame ) is magnesium...There is an option for 2008 for leather dash and door panels
 
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28mpg, im assuming it turns off half the cylinders ?
No.....6th gear is an overdrive gear.
 
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Originally Posted by RennTechV12
I have raced AND BEATEN several C6 Z's. I have beaten 3 on the drag strip. 2 on the road course and 3 or 4 on the street. A guy in our club has one with heads, cams, intake, headers and catback. I waxed him. It may be a great car for the money, blah, blah, blah...It makes me yawn

Luis (in his GT3) and I waxed one (on slicks, with mods) on the roadcourse earlier this year. Look at that body roll
It does take over 600 wheel hp in a Porsche to smoke a 505 crank HP car.

I took out a 680 rwhp car mustang cobra (with a good driver) with a stock z06. The cobra is a quick car but its a little fat.
 
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You only need about 600 crank to beat the c6z06.............trust me I know.
 

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Originally Posted by RennTechV12
And yes...I've driven the Z, I was unimpressed.


And yes...my car is modded, I'm just answering the OP, besides, I waxed modded Zs too

...next?
bro you havnt ran into the right driver yet! either these people you waxed cant drive. or you are a good driver. for 1 your 1/4 mile time on you 996 is what i have seen a stock zo6 with DRs run. your 996 is mooded to hell. it all comes down to driver most of the time. next year when the new supercharged ZO6 comes out just about any driver will beat you in the 1/4. now track is different like said many times the better driver will win.
 
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Originally Posted by tblackj
I'm in a weird position because I have both.

The Z06 is just so much fun to drive. It's hard to explain. The tail kicks out, it sounds like a beast accelerating (headers and Magnaflow exhaust help), it makes every kid in a STi want to race you, it's just a redneck race car. It also has an okay interior and it has some squeeks and rattles and a plethora of check engine lights.

The 997TT is just a beautiful car. It's doors shut like a vault, it drives smooth and quiet if you want it to, it doubles as a saturday night date car and a sunday afternoon race car, it wears many hats.

I guess I just have to say that I highly recommend getting both. There, that settles it.
Agreed. You must own both! That makes it easy.

If I had to get rid of one, I would have to flip a coin. The vette is ***** on fun to drive, you can hang the *** out anywhere you want, do big smokey smoke shows, rolling burnouts, etc... but when your mood changes, you can take any twisty road and pull a G through the corners. The Porsche just feels right, and I love it's crisp precise feeling!
 
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Old 05-24-2007 | 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by skojasevic
28mpg, im assuming it turns off half the cylinders ?
No, its mostly good gearing.
 
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Old 05-24-2007 | 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Indykid
You only need about 600 crank to beat the c6z06.............trust me I know.
I have 640hp crank in my TurboS. It isn't faster than the Z06.

trust me I KNOW.
 
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Originally Posted by SlowMotion
I have 640hp crank in my TurboS. It isn't faster than the Z06.

trust me I KNOW.
Hmm that's strange. At what speed did you run?
 
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bro you havnt ran into the right driver yet! either these people you waxed cant drive. or you are a good driver. for 1 your 1/4 mile time on you 996 is what i have seen a stock zo6 with DRs run. your 996 is mooded to hell. it all comes down to driver most of the time. next year when the new supercharged ZO6 comes out just about any driver will beat you in the 1/4. now track is different like said many times the better driver will win.
comon man, Ranger is a professional drag racer, all he does is try to break the stock Z06 records and he probably has over 500 passes on the C6Z already, he lives at the track, I wouldnt count that.

Not to mention he runs at what is considered the fastest and best prepped track (or top three) in the country, compared to Joe running in hot elevation in AZ. Trust me, that turbo is much faster than any Z.

Only 1800 of the supercharged Z will be produced, 100k msrp, millions of crazy and lots of rich garage queeners will have them, you wont see but a couple at the track EVER. They are a non issue, almost as bad as mag racing.

BTW GM did a fantastic job of covering up all of the cheap stuff they did to the car, the whole thing is glued together, to save weigh, which is why the roofs are flying off, there are lots of cheap components on corvettes, always have been, always will be, Porsche ARE built better with better materials.


Look at it this way, if Porsche made the 997 Turbo like a track car (not GT2) and just eliminated some of the deadening, lost more weight but kept AWD and tried to make it anything other than a fast cruiser (face it the turbo was not built for racing, the vette was designed after the race car) it would smash the Z06, but even as it is, without even trying to beat the Z06, Porsche has come close, like I said earlier, its way overpriced as new but you cant argue that for what it contains and was built for, it's one bad ****.



IT DOES NOT TAKE 600WHP TO BEAT A Z06!!!!! It only takes k24's, a very good ecu and an exhaust. I can prove that any time.
 
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Originally Posted by SlowMotion
I have 640hp crank in my TurboS. It isn't faster than the Z06.

trust me I KNOW.
Then either your Turbo S is a fat pig or you dont have 640 crank.
 
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Originally Posted by skojasevic
can i ask a stupid question
if the car has so much good stuff in it
why does a porsche or ferrar f430 cost so much more ?

im not being srcastic at all, it's just i don't understand why the euro cars are 2-3x more expensive ?
Because when you build so few units, you have to subsidize your cost more with each one. Ferrari and Porsche don't have the Chevy volume. Additionally, Ferrari intentionally builds expensive cars and does not overproduce so that the cars will retain their high values.

Z06 isn't just fast in a straight line. If you're comparing stock to stock and performance only, the Z06 wins. If you start looking at other items like price, luxuries, marque, steering feel, etc. it's personal preference.
 


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