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How come no spanked Z06's ?

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Old 05-24-2007 | 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by heavychevy
Then either your Turbo S is a fat pig or you dont have 640 crank.
x2 I read that you raced a 580 rwhp cobra with tuning issues. I ran a whipple cobra w/630 rwhp twice on a track and once on the street and beat him pretty bad. Your 640hp is a little skewed.
 
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Originally Posted by Indykid
Hmm that's strange. At what speed did you run?
I haven't raced them against each other, I can only drive either of them at one time. I do know however, because own both and have driven the **** out of both.

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I haven't raced them against each other, I can only drive either of them at one time. I do know however, because own both and have driven the **** out of both.

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Unless you have raced them against each other there is no why to tell. I would think that the z would "feel" faster with the torque. If you want to race them I can fly in and help out.
 
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Originally Posted by heavychevy
Then either your Turbo S is a fat pig or you dont have 640 crank.
That is possible also... it's an evo kit, so it could be BS. They both pull hard, but I think by the time I got the K24's spooled I would be playing catch up on the vette.

I could be wrong. All I know is I paid a **** load more for the Porsche, and have nearly an extra Z06 in mods (the rims, suspension, body kit, and EVO). I keep driving both, I can't hate my Porsche (I wouldn't give it up), but I can't hate that vette, and about 12K in mods on the vette and it's putting down another 150hp. If I had gotten this vette when my Porsche was stock, I would probably be getting rid of the Porsche.
 
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Originally Posted by SlowMotion
I haven't raced them against each other, I can only drive either of them at one time. I do know however, because own both and have driven the **** out of both.

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True... the vette definitely feels faster, I think it's the lack of boost loss between gears that drives that feeling home.
 
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Old 05-24-2007 | 01:25 PM
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IMO the Z06 is a great car, but i must say, they aren't unbeatable at the track.

Early this year i was at Laguna Seca with my turbo running only a flash/dv/k&n filter - with the ****ty bridgestone street tires, and i was inching in on the z06. He was shocked since he had attended Skip Barber Racing twice, and use to race on the circuit. Granted that was my first time, and i had a passanger, and my spare tire in the front of the car.

So i wouldnt say i was up against a newb, and that was my 4th track day ever, first with the p car. If anything i was the newb, driving stick/finding the limit of the turbo.


Their was a fan club of Vett owners that day that setup their pits next to me, and they were -- i was proud i didnt my 6 year old porsche down !
 
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Originally Posted by SlowMotion
I think it's the lack of boost loss between gears that drives that feeling home.
Shift faster and don't lift the accelerater while shifting. My car as the k16/24's which seem to have no lag over stock at all.
 
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I don't powershift... I can't seem to get my brain and foot to agree not to lift.

My bone stock 2001 Turbo ran a 12.20 without powershifting, and my 02 Z06 ran an 11.90.
 
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Originally Posted by SlowMotion
I don't powershift... I can't seem to get my brain and foot to agree not to lift.

My bone stock 2001 Turbo ran a 12.20 without powershifting, and my 02 Z06 ran an 11.90.
I just cracked off a 11.9 in my car on a slow,slow track. I ran my friends z6z06 and got him by a fender from a 20 to 120 run which goes low 12's and traps 118 to120 at the same track.
 
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Originally Posted by skojasevic
can i ask a stupid question
if the car has so much good stuff in it
why does a porsche or ferrar f430 cost so much more ?

im not being srcastic at all, it's just i don't understand why the euro cars are 2-3x more expensive ?
No offense... but you have an A4 (I like audi's owned a few of them, 04 S4, and 05 A8L), and you don't own a Porsche yet, and you have a 997 in your picture. Have you driven the wheels off either a 996 Turbo or a Z06? You've got lots of opinions about the vette, and a lot of opinions about the turbo, but they all seem a little naive... especially after the question above. The reason you spend so much for an f430 is because they hardly make any of them, and they are Ferrari's (you pay for that horse dancing in the yellow field).
 
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Originally Posted by ROCKETW19
bro you havnt ran into the right driver yet! either these people you waxed cant drive. or you are a good driver. for 1 your 1/4 mile time on you 996 is what i have seen a stock zo6 with DRs run. your 996 is mooded to hell. it all comes down to driver most of the time. next year when the new supercharged ZO6 comes out just about any driver will beat you in the 1/4. now track is different like said many times the better driver will win.
WHAT? How many stock Z's are trapping in the mid 130's?

I saw that run that Ranger made, BTW...10.9 is not 10.7. my 60' on that run was 1.8, while his was much lower and I STILL outran him. So I guess none of the guys could drive, huh? My buddy with the modded Z switched cars with me and we ran with the same result. Dude, the Z is a cool car but come on


Let me know when you're ready to run your Z06 against me so you can personally get a taste of harsh reality.
 

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I suppose porsche "could" make the GT3/2 and turbo cheaper because they have the cheaper models to help fund them, after all that's what corvette uses to fund the Z06, sells tons of base model vettes and that will ensure your profit on the big dogs. The problem is that porsche has three top grade models in the GT3/2 and Turbo and the sales from the boxster wont help R&D all three all that much, not to mention there are carrera S 4S etc, none of which exactly cheap, not to mention GM is #2 for sales worldwide (was #1 Toyota).


The benefit of Porsche is that you pay a premium not to see one everytime you look to the left or right. That's how it is. They could make cheaper models and sell them everyday and prices go down, but then who would repect them???
 
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turbo vs. na...hmmm...put a blower on the Z and then see what happens
 
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Originally Posted by heavychevy
IT DOES NOT TAKE 600WHP TO BEAT A Z06!!!!! It only takes k24's, a very good ecu and an exhaust. I can prove that any time.
This is true.......all it takes on a 996TT is K24's, exhaust, and a good ECU/Tune (585-600 CHP or so) to take a new C6 Z06. We have lined them up and let them run (from 50-140 MPH). I've beaten the new C6 Z06 with only about 550 CHP (430-440 awhp) in my S4 Wagon.....and mind you, this is multiple runs from highway rolls (like I said, usually 50-140 or so). It does not take 600 whp to take a new Z06
 
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Smile a little late to the fray!

Originally Posted by ZAMIRZ
skojasevic, you are not only ignorant, but misinformed.

The Corvette does not "use leaf springs" it has A SINGLE transversely mounted composite leaf spring that helps stabilize the rear-end under hard acceleration. The car still has a coilover strut/spring setup at each corner.

Please get a clue or stop posting useless garbage in this thread.
but l got my popcorn! dip anyone?
 


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