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Old 07-05-2007, 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by ssmugen
haha, i'm thinking if I start at a MPH that makes him start in 2nd i'd have the advantage... hmm... 40mph?

at 60mph he has to be in the higher end of 2nd gear?
Well first gear goes up to 72-73mph if my memory serves me right, so you'd have to either catch him under his powerband or in second gear, around 25-30mph you might be able to catch him until the motor opens up, otherwise go for 65mph-70mph bc I know not many riders feel comfortable rolling the bike at 14,000rpm for a while.
 
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600s are weak. i would destroy them stock. only r1s and busa's are worth the gas. a bad rider will be slower 0-60 fosho...
So you're saying my bike is not worth the gas...

I think I should be saying that to you instead.
 
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Originally Posted by HD Jimbo
So you're saying my bike is not worth the gas...

I think I should be saying that to you instead.
You have a GSXR1000 right?
 
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You have a GSXR1000 right?
Indeed, she also has a few extras.
 
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Indeed, she also has a few extras.
Very nice.
 
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i was generalizing - gixxer 1000s are pretty equal to R1s...

also my point with 600s relates more to rolls at 60mp, not starting from a dig - as the avg bike rider cant achieve ricky gadson-like 1/4 and 60 ft numbers.

On a side note, most bikes get relatively slower at higher speed b/c of drag/aero...except the busa - such a great aero acheivement. I still cant believe suzuki hasnt updtaed it...no need apparently.

I had one of the loast fast ones (2000) before they were restricted...motor blew up in a 150mph, oil and tankslapper ending wheelie (racing a gsx1000) .

No more riding 4 me!
 
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Originally Posted by ECB
i was generalizing - gixxer 1000s are pretty equal to R1s...

also my point with 600s relates more to rolls at 60mp, not starting from a dig - as the avg bike rider cant achieve ricky gadson-like 1/4 and 60 ft numbers.

On a side note, most bikes get relatively slower at higher speed b/c of drag/aero...except the busa - such a great aero acheivement. I still cant believe suzuki hasnt updtaed it...no need apparently.

I had one of the loast fast ones (2000) before they were restricted...motor blew up in a 150mph, oil and tankslapper ending wheelie (racing a gsx1000) .

No more riding 4 me!
Road course > *
 
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I find it funny that any near stock Porsche would claim to be faster than the Honda 600RR. Off the line, the bike walks, at 1/4 mile the bike is still ahead. Once you are up over 130mph then the car will pass the bike, but how many races go to 160+? Today's 1000's make the 600's look slow, so Jimbo is wasting HIS gas on racing a Porsche according to ECB's standards.
Of course this is assuming equal quality drivers/riders. That is rarely the case as many bike riders are truly squids.










Originally Posted by dgussin1
honda bikes are slow from my experience. I destroyed a cbr900 (although it's an older bike).
you didnt beat the bike, you beat the rider.



CBR900RR PERFORMANCE
Measured top speed: 158 mph
0-1/4 mile: 10.73 sec. @ 124.56 mph
0-60 mph: 3.13 sec.
0-100 mph: 6.83 sec.
60-0 mph: 113.8'
Power-to-weight ratio: 1:4.13
 

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Originally Posted by Jeff_NJ
I find it funny that any near stock Porsche would claim to be faster than the Honda 600RR. Off the line, the bike walks, at 1/4 mile the bike is still ahead. Once you are up over 130mph then the car will pass the bike, but how many races go to 160+? Today's 1000's make the 600's look slow, so HD Jimbo is wasting HIS gas on racing a Porsche according to ECB's standards.
Of course this is assuming equal quality drivers/riders. That is rarely the case as many bike riders are truly squids.


you didnt beat the bike, you beat the rider.



CBR900RR PERFORMANCE
Measured top speed: 158 mph
0-1/4 mile: 10.73 sec. @ 124.56 mph
0-60 mph: 3.13 sec.
0-100 mph: 6.83 sec.
60-0 mph: 113.8'
Power-to-weight ratio: 1:4.13
Agreed 110%

I spent four months racing my 600 over the twisties in Jersey as well as highway racing etc (I was an idiot at the time), and I was able to kick peoples asses that were riding new GSXR1000's and Busa's, its all about the rider, because it takes a substantial amount of skill to harness that much power on such a light motorcycle.
 
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People have to understand, rider and from a rolling start can determine the outcome. No doubt that means with a poor rider the bike is faster with a good one, but who can determine their skills in a spur of the moment run? Things are way different on the street, and especially from a 60mph pull no matter how fast their 1/4 mile or 0-60 numbers are..
 
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I consider myself an above average rider...

I love tearing up the twisties, but also throughly enjoy hopping on the highway and doing high speed blasts.

I haven't had a pair big enough to take her above 200 yet, but 193 is knocking on that door... hopefully sometime shortly I'll meet my goal; of going above 200 and not dying.
 
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Originally Posted by HD Jimbo
I consider myself an above average rider...

I love tearing up the twisties, but also throughly enjoy hopping on the highway and doing high speed blasts.

I haven't had a pair big enough to take her above 200 yet, but 193 is knocking on that door... hopefully sometime shortly I'll meet my goal; of going above 200 and not dying.
I got the chance to surpass the 200mph barrier and uhm... its interesting to know you did it.

And dragging a knee is the most gratifying thing in the world <33
 
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Originally Posted by HD Jimbo
I consider myself an above average rider...

I love tearing up the twisties, but also throughly enjoy hopping on the highway and doing high speed blasts.

I haven't had a pair big enough to take her above 200 yet, but 193 is knocking on that door... hopefully sometime shortly I'll meet my goal; of going above 200 and not dying.
Can I have your cars in Forza if you don't make it?
 
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Yeah. I had a few thousand RPMs left, so she has it in her...but traffic was not necessarily cooperating with me.
 
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