I have both an Escort and a V1. I think the V1 kicks escorts ***.
You get more time to react with the V1. And after you have the arrows for a while, good luck going to another radar, You feel blind.

 

Valentine has the directional arrows... which saved my butt

 

That's a great deal Stephen! I will be switching my SR1 / Lidatek combo to my Suburban and will be looking to buy the SRX... any hot deals on these?

Mike

 

You always see Escort 8500 trying to find a better way to beat Valentine 1 but never include directional detection. Valentine 1 never worries about Escort since they know they are the best. The direction of the signal is the best invention ever. And since the filtering rate may be slightly less on a V1 compared to an Escort, the huge value of the directions make up for it.

In addition, the POP3 radar guns havent been as widespread or else Valentine 1 would of made the upgrade available to their customers.

V1 > All

and u can make a stealth installation as well. u just gotta have the $dough$

 

I buy the directional arrow thing, as it is very nice having the arrows. Let me also say I own a V1 and have never owned a passport. However, the 8500 has beat the V1 in more tests than it has lost.......and that was the old 8500. This new X50 model is much more powerful yet and detects pop 3 rader and gives less false alarms. Directional arrows and an extra $100 or better performance. I dunno, I think I am going to give the X50 a shot.

Lou

 

I am having the Passport SRX installed in my car when it comes in (part of the dealer discount). It has reviewed well and is completely hidden, big factor for me.

 

Hi everybody! You managed to bait me really well this time!

Well, I have to admit that I have never heard of "POP3".

Our web site has a whole section on the POP feature used in the MPH BEE III Ka-band radar gun, which you seem to have read. Perhaps the "III" from the radar name and "POP" have become "urban legend-ized" into "POP3".

While there have been claims from speedzones.com that many detectors (including V1) pick up K-band POP signals, we have not been able to independantly replicate the same results. We have in our possession an MPH Industries Enforcer Moving Radar that was obtained in the K-band version. In our testing, detectors mentioned by speedzones as able to find K-band POP, can't detect the Enforcer when it's operated in the POP mode. This is very strange. We've evaluated a number of samples of new BEL/Escort detectors (RX65, 995, 8500x50) that claim to detect POP that don't respond to the Enforcer's K-band POP signal either.

It has been mentioned before that Carl Fors, the speedzones owner, has had various dealings with my competitors as well as police radar makers, and I can't help wondering what was going on in the Summer 2003 detector test he performed -- especially with his POP testing and results (same data as used in Motor Trend "test").

We, of course, have long been working on a V1 upgrade for POP. This would include Ka-band POP from the BEE III as well as K-band POP from the Enforcer. The main riddle to be solved is how to separate POP signals (only .067 seconds duration) from junk-signals that are radiated from hundreds of thousands of BEL and Cobra radar detectors. These detector-generated junk-signals have frequency and duration characteristcs that are nearly identical to real POP signals.

It's quite a challenge to give useful warning of POP radars without beating users' ears deaf with false alarms from all the offending BEL and Cobra detectors in circulation. If one were to merely tone down the sensitivity to short duration signals, to mask or lessen the presence of the BEL/Cobra junk, then only strict line-of-sight detection of real POP radar signals would be possible. Forget over-the-hill or around-the-corner warnings.

Of course, with the way speedzones.com and radartest.com compare detectors, line-of-sight detection is all that is likely to be tested. Over-the-hill and around-the-corner warning performance would be left up to the imagination of their readers (thereby glossing over deficiencies of products that are too weak to detect POP beyond mere line-of-sight).

In sum:

A) The new BEL/Escort detectors we bought DO NOT pick up K-band POP from the MPH Enforcer (even after re-programming POP mode to "On"). Read the fine print in their ads or instruction books.

B) The problem to be overcome to gain useful POP detection capability is the grotesque on-the-road interference radiating from BEL and Cobra radar detectors in other poeples' vehicles. Even BEL/Escort knows this since their Ka-band-only POP feature is defaulted to "Off" when leaving the factory (one has to manually program POP reception to "On'). One may assume this is to prevent product returns -- "too much false signal beeping" -- from the unwary.

Oh well, I'm sure we'll figure out a good solution for V1.

Cheers,

Mike

 

V1 saved us a couple of times on the way to Hersey today! Cant drive without it!

 

Thanks Mike V for the response!!!

V1

 

Mike:

THis is as honest as I can be. I would buy your product if you offered a remote version. Please do! The way it stands, the Passport SRX is it unless it absolutley blows and then I will be forced to go to your windshield unit.

 

I agree. Until the unit can be hidden like the SR7 or SRX I can't handle the box inside the car with the remote.

Mike, do you have plans to build a totally hidden unit? Surly you have request for such.

 

Colorchange,

You can hide it like this......

 

The guy talked about X band radar, now who the hell uses X band. Try NOBODY. Old school radar. The guns are like 10"x10" huge and heavy. It is all about K, KA, and Lidar or Laser.

 

Thanks Mr. Valentine. It nice to know that such professionals take the time to explain what's going on. It is a credit to Valentine as a company and 6SpeedOnline and a forum.

Thanks Shank for finding this information. Very interesting. I love my V1 and the directional arrows, to some insignificant, I find to be the best feature on the box... not to mention the incredible sensitivity over any other unit I have tried.

Thanks again Mike V. and Shank.

 

I don’t see the V1 mirror on Beast Power’s WEB sight. How much? How is the V1 unit itself mounted? Is the V1 placed in a watertight container and converted into a remote?

I live in Virginia were radar detectors are illegal. I have always used remote radar detectors for this reason.

There is a company Remote Systems that converted Escort radar detectors to remotes. Now that Escort sells a remote, Remote Systems does not.

I love the V1. I have the new 8500x50, the latest V1, and the SR7. My experience with the 8500x50 is that it now has the same range as the V1, but no better. The V1 and 8500x50 have much better range that the SR7.

I have purchased 2 watertight containers to attempt to convert the V1 and 8500x50 to remotes. The V1 lands itself much better to this as it has remote volume and displays. The problem is the V1 would loose the directional arrows.