Corvette forum is having a hissy fit. If it is't about their almighty Z06, it must be a lie or the fix is in.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1780373

 

I vote for not caring...can I get a second?

 

You're right, I should be banned for posting it.

 

Look forward to another 50 pages thread of e-racing/ e-balling nonsense.

 

they live in denial...i couldnt care less.

 

Ban the next person that posts in this thread . . . . oh wait, thats me . . . never mind.

Craig

 

Uh.. there was like two people in saying something stupid-
everyone else is pretty down to earth.

Alot like around here-

 

you don't care yet you post the thread

 

Sorry to revive this thread but I simply want some proof, even though we won't get proof until Porsche releases it's info on how it acheived a 7:32 'Ring time - if this is info is coming from Porsche - and until 3rd parties begin releasing track times. Trust me, few people want the new GT2 to be equal to the CGT's lap times more than me...I mean, I actually lost a little sleep last night knowing that there is doubt in the 7:32 lap time. I know, I need help.

That being said, this guy on the Corvette Forums makes a valid point:



Possible. But the things that really strike me as odd are:

1. Porsche does not normally compare their cars to other cars in print. They are consistently funny like that.

2. If they were going to compare themselves to someone I hate to say it but Dodge's Viper does not seem a likely candidate. The Ferraris and Lambos yes but the Viper? Not so much. Also, I find the addition of MB's convertible SL odd. The SLR McLaren sure but the SL seems odd to me as it would not be logically viewed as a track competitor to the GT2. Porsche is generally exceedingly logical.

3. It seems especially bizarre to me that Porsche would come out and explicitly state that the GT2 is the equivalent of the CGT. That sort of thing is usually verboten for a company like Porsche especially so soon after the CGTs production run ended. Why on earth would they try to poke the CGT buyers in the eye like that?

4. "Untamed power of a biturbo engine" reads wrong from a marketing perspective. But even worse and in keeping with the theme from 3 above, "The GT2 is also clearly superior to the 911 Turbo." W...T...F?! Porsche just doesn't usually speak about sibling products like that. If this "brochure pic" is real I am very, very surprised at Porsche. This would seem very unlike them.

In print, if they do it at all, Porsche normally compares their new cars gently to the performance envelopes of their own predecessor models of the same type.

I have gone over each and every page of the leaked brochure: http://www.eurocarblog.com/post/505/...eaked-brochure

I don't see any trace of that odd picture with the Ring time. Something just doesn't seem right here.

Last edited by Bwright : Yesterday at 11:58 AM.

 

#1 & 2 I dont think is a big, deal, they want people to see cars they recognize and see how much faster the GT2 is than they are.

#3 Porsche has to justify the cost of this vehicle and using the carrera gt is a way to elevate it's status, the CGT is out of production anyways so no harm no foul. Not to mention the GT2 has the speed to back up the claim. The CGT is an exotic supercar. The GT2 is a super car.

#4 Many people dont knwo the difference in the Turbo and the GT2 and they will still be VERY hard to tell apart so it has to be distinguished. Anyone who is a porsche enthusiast not only allready knows this but expects it from the GT2.


The corvette boys can come up with all the conspiracy theories they want, the GT2 should just plain be FAST. I say should because I still take ring times with a grain of salt, too much nonsense and propaganda involved, we'll see what its got when it gets here.



The only conspiracy I am seeing is that the 997 TT is 1 sec behind the GT3 on cup tires which I think it could beat the GT3 but Porsche would never allow that. My reasoning is that if the GT2 can go 7 seconds faster than the GT3, it only has better suspension/ 200 lbs less weight and 50 more hp and frankly I dont think that adds up to 7 seconds. Just a theory though, very odd that it would be 1 sec behind, you think they would have acknowledge that it won if in fact it did? I think not. Someone else chime in on this.

 

The 997TT "conspiracy" is that it is delivered from the factory in a non-optimal state of trim. The motor is identical to the GT2 (yes turbos too) yet get coupled to a higher restriction exhaust and soft boost map. The suspension is set with a pedestrian regulatory ride height (yet all the GT cars are exempt?), and the camber settings guaranty the car will understeer (-0.4 front, -1.4 rear vs GT3 street -1.2 front/-1.6 rear, Gt3 track -2.0 front/-2.4 rear). Almost every test outside the US show that even hampered as much, its roadcourse performance times are equal to the Gt3 while still on street tires.

 

don't we boys, because porche drivers don't like getting yanked.
..... i care

 

My point exactly, the TT on MPSC's would beat the GT3 at some tracks even with the disadvantages.

Of course we all know that real tracking isnt about a 1 lap burner so the GT3 is still a better track car, the TT is good for short sprint before it starts getting tired (i.e. brakes, tires)

Porsche seems to be the smart ones though because they have made SEVERAL different variations of the same basic design that cater to so many different people, and they sell them like hot cakes.