Vivid changed turbo pricing, how about Vivid/Evoms change NA S.C. pricing
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03-12-2008 | 06:11 PM
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Vivid changed turbo pricing, how about Vivid/Evoms change NA S.C. pricing
I believe Vivid change the whole pricing structure for turbo upgrades. No longer will owners be paying 3k+ for software upgrades, etc. EPL/Vivid now have 600 HP (K16/16G) for 3400 . . . a great deal, 650 HP for 11,800 and 700HP for 14,000. Pricing for turbo tuning has come down drastically from it's ridiculously high level. Evoms pricing has now come way down to match Vivid's. Isn't competition great. It's finally coming to the Porsche tuning market.
How about a decent price for a S.C. on a 996. I'm not talking 7-9,000. Why not 4-5,000. The actual SC doen't know if it's on a 996, 350Z, STI, Ford, GM or whatever. The programming and hardware have been out for years now. The excuse of developmental costs to keep prices high, has run it's course. I believe Vivid/Evo would match the total sum sold to date quickly, if they'd sell a SC at a decent price.
I'm debating upgrading to a TT right now. A great price on A SC would surely make my decision much harder. If I do go the TT route, I believe Vivid has made all the other tuners who were charging the so-called "Porsche premium" bring their pricing down to a realistic level.
What do you think?
p.s. I've never spent one penny at Vivid
How about a decent price for a S.C. on a 996. I'm not talking 7-9,000. Why not 4-5,000. The actual SC doen't know if it's on a 996, 350Z, STI, Ford, GM or whatever. The programming and hardware have been out for years now. The excuse of developmental costs to keep prices high, has run it's course. I believe Vivid/Evo would match the total sum sold to date quickly, if they'd sell a SC at a decent price.
I'm debating upgrading to a TT right now. A great price on A SC would surely make my decision much harder. If I do go the TT route, I believe Vivid has made all the other tuners who were charging the so-called "Porsche premium" bring their pricing down to a realistic level.
What do you think?
p.s. I've never spent one penny at Vivid
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03-12-2008 | 10:10 PM
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Slow4s, I totally agree. Look at the turbo market. Prices have dropped considerably because there is finally some competition. Funny how that works. EVO could sell so many more of their SC's if they would just price them right. It's probably not near the margin like they had in the turbo market. But those days are gone since there are quite a few more tuners competing for the business.
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03-13-2008 | 10:25 PM
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If you took an SC kit and priced out the parts wholesale what do you think that number might be? I'm willing to bet there is A LOT of room in there to bring the price down to where quite a few of us would buy them. I know - R&D.. R&D... R&D... I agree, a company should get a return on their R&D investment. But you can buy the whole motor for 8400 bucks. How much R&D goes into one of those?
$6,000.00 is a realistic price to pay for a well engineered, quality supercharger kit for a Porsche. Twice that is ridiculous. As soon as someone realizes that they will sell a ton of them.
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03-14-2008 | 06:26 AM
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You can clearly see which of the posters on this thread have never run a successful business. There is a lot more than covering costs of parts and R&D in determining the price of a product. It takes more than a few business courses in college to learn. This is the typical argument of "I could do it better", yet you don't. If you don't like the price, develope one yourself and sell it for $6,000. See how long you survive providing the product for that price to a your small customer base.
Funny thread. People who overpaid for a car complaining about having to spend a few thousand dollars on a mod.
Funny thread. People who overpaid for a car complaining about having to spend a few thousand dollars on a mod.
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03-14-2008 | 06:47 AM
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You can clearly see which of the posters on this thread have never run a successful business. There is a lot more than covering costs of parts and R&D in determining the price of a product. It takes more than a few business courses in college to learn. This is the typical argument of "I could do it better", yet you don't. If you don't like the price, develope one yourself and sell it for $6,000. See how long you survive providing the product for that price to a your small customer base.
Funny thread. People who overpaid for a car complaining about having to spend a few thousand dollars on a mod.
Funny thread. People who overpaid for a car complaining about having to spend a few thousand dollars on a mod.
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03-14-2008 | 08:13 AM
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You can clearly see which of the posters on this thread have never run a successful business. There is a lot more than covering costs of parts and R&D in determining the price of a product. It takes more than a few business courses in college to learn. This is the typical argument of "I could do it better", yet you don't. If you don't like the price, develope one yourself and sell it for $6,000. See how long you survive providing the product for that price to a your small customer base.
Funny thread. People who overpaid for a car complaining about having to spend a few thousand dollars on a mod.
Funny thread. People who overpaid for a car complaining about having to spend a few thousand dollars on a mod.
what parts on the kit are custom besides the piping? I don' really expect the SC kit price to come down, afterall, the NSX and BMW SC kits cost more than that.
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Yeah... It's not hard at all to build and be responsible for a forced induction kit on someone's 80+ thousand dollar car. It's just a bunch of PVC pipes....
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You can clearly see which of the posters on this thread have never run a successful business. There is a lot more than covering costs of parts and R&D in determining the price of a product. It takes more than a few business courses in college to learn. This is the typical argument of "I could do it better", yet you don't. If you don't like the price, develope one yourself and sell it for $6,000. See how long you survive providing the product for that price to a your small customer base.
Funny thread. People who overpaid for a car complaining about having to spend a few thousand dollars on a mod.
Funny thread. People who overpaid for a car complaining about having to spend a few thousand dollars on a mod.
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03-14-2008 | 08:33 AM
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It would cost you a hell of a lot more than $13,000 to setup a turbo on your NA 996 to get as good as a performance car than the SC provides.