I just got PSS10's installed and am now considering H&R Sways. I have also considered GT3's but am not sure I need the adjustment for a non-tracked DD.

Does anybody have first hand experience with the H&R's or any other aftermarket sways that do not require adjustable drop links?

 

I believe HR sways are adjustable. So are gt3 as well as gmg. I can't recall any aftermarket sway that are not adjustable as most are performance oriented, which favors adjustability. As for adjustable drop links, you might not need them for all sway bars. If you do get them try tarrett or weltmeister. Stay away from AP. Adjustabe links may be required as the stock links are too short. Plus they allow for perfect corner balancing and adjusting preload. (you will probably only need to replace your front links anyway.)

-td

 

I don't know anything about H&R, but I can tell you that two friends of mine, upgraded their suspension (C2 and C4) with Bilstein sport, Gemballa springs, and Eibach Racing sway bars.

They had got a good set up job dobe by one of the best Porsche experts in Europe and the result was great. They thought to install H&R sway bars, but the expert advised them to go with Eibach Racing sway bars.

Here you can see the installation:

http://www.pasionporsche.com/newsite...-circuito.html


If you need a translation, just tell me.

 

H&R C2 fronts are not adjustable, the C4 fronts are adjustable.... the rears are 3 way adjustable on both models

 

I've got 'em and love them. While not hollow like the GT3's they were a marked improvement in minimizing roll. You should get adjustable drop-links so you can set them up with zero load.

 

Sorry I miss-spoke. I was trying to find a set of bars that did not require an upgrade to adjustable drop links. My understanding is that the H&R's will fit the stock links. Any opinions between the H&R's and the Eibachs?

 

i have pss9's with the h&r sways and am very happy with them. big improvement over stock handling. they do not require new drop links. the rear is 3 way adjustable, fronts only have one setting.

 

Yeah but the stock links would be the weakest point and could very well break.

I know you have to drop some extra dough but I would recommend changing them out at the same time. You have to remember that you want your sways completely unloaded at rest and I have not seen non-adjustable links give you that ability.

Try www.gocpt.com (sponsor)

Ask for Al, he has some really nice links that have done well by me

 

If I am going to drop the coin on new drop links should i get the GT3 bars instead?

 

I have the H&Rs and they work great. I do not see the need for new droplinks and swaybars that require droplinksd on a street car, so save the $$$$ IMHO. The H&Rs have enough adjustment.
I also have the PSS9s - you will be very happy with this set up

 

Yeah that was my initial thoughts as well. I am trying to decide between the Eibachs and the H&R's.

Thanks

 

FYI, live.com has a 30% off buy it now coupon deal going on. you can get a front H&R sway for $190 shipped or so. I'm thinking HARD on doing the GT3 sway in the rear and H&R in the front (ok Tom, shoot holes in this set up )

 

LOL. Should be fine for street use and limited track use, and because you can reuse the stock drop links, you won't have to pony up the extra ~$300 bucks for Tarett drop links. Downside is, if you get addicted to the track, you're going to kick yourself when you re-buy a front sway

Seriously though, my biggest concern is that the HR bar is about the same diameter as the GT3 sway (HR=26mm, GT3=26.7), which might bring your understeer back. From stock, HR is about 60% stiffer (GT3 is about 78% stiffer). Without the adjustability, you might not be able to dial out the understeer. With adjustability, you might be able to run full stiff rear, and full soft front (with adjustable bars) and create a neutral car. But this all depends on what the neutral hole corresponds to. I'll ask a setup guru about this, as I've often wondered myself.

-td

 

How do you find this deal at Live.com? Is it with a particular vendor?

 

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum....php?t=1101767

Links to the Live.com links